yooperfan
3 years ago

If they did they were idiots

Originally Posted by: KRK 


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all_about_da_packers
3 years ago

If they did they were idiots

Originally Posted by: KRK 



I think our differing opinions on this would be a debate for an entirely different thread. I appreciate your efforts to summarize Aaron's appearance on the Pat McAfee show - it is, honestly, one of the best summaries I've read (and it does help someone sympathetic to Aaron's view is the summarizer).

But it doesn't change the fact that Aaron is attempting to PR spin something that makes him look very bad. For someone who seemed to go on a whirl-wind diatribe on his view of personal liberty and freedom, it is at least curious that he never really spoke to, or tried to defend himself against, the legal ramifications from the NFL that are likely forthcoming for him and possibly the Packers.

Also, I think the complete silence we've heard from Murphy and Gute is deafening. They've basically left the coach to manage the fallout from this all while staying silent and behind the scenes. I'm pretty astonished that someone like Mark Murphy who interjected himself at the top of the hierarchy of team operations a couple of years ago, has not wanted to take the heat off the coach and let Matt LaFleur focus on game prep.

All of which goes to my thinking that this circus may indeed further entrench Murphy and Gute to move on from Aaron Rodgers and turn to Jordan Love.

And, for the record, Aaron's explanation is mostly making him look even more foolish / worse. Not sure he's able to PR spin his way out of his public standing having fallen so steeply.
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all_about_da_packers
3 years ago
Now the President of the Pro Football Writers of America group (Lindsay Jones) just tweeted in response to Rodgers saying today that an NFL doctor told him if he was vaccinated he couldn't catch or spread COVID, a league source noted Rodgers never spoke with a league MD or one of the jointly appointed infectious disease experts, though it was offered.

This is perhaps the most baffling part of Aaron Rodgers' PR strategy - the NFL has an army of "insiders" that will be able to refute Rodgers' version of the events. He ends up looking even more foolish, and an even bigger liar.

He literally cannot win with the PR spin. He tried, and I'm not sure how else he could've managed a PR spin other than going on Pat McAfee's show, but he is literally unequipped to be able to take on the NFL PR machine.
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3 years ago
AADP added

I think our differing opinions on this would be a debate for an entirely different thread. I appreciate your efforts to summarize Aaron's appearance on the Pat McAfee show - it is, honestly, one of the best summaries I've read (and it does help someone sympathetic to Aaron's view is the summarizer).

Originally Posted by: all_about_da_packers 

Thanks!!!! I sincerely appreciate the complement.

But it doesn't change the fact that Aaron is attempting to PR spin something that makes him look very bad. For someone who seemed to go on a whirl-wind diatribe on his view of personal liberty and freedom, it is at least curious that he never really spoke to, or tried to defend himself against, the legal ramifications from the NFL that are likely forthcoming for him and possibly the Packers.

I wish he had not said 'immunized'. It was deceiving, he just should have said, "its none of your business". That notwithstanding, IF the Packers knew, and IF he in fact largely followed the non-vaxxed protocols, I don't know that there will be legal or league rammification.

Also, I think the complete silence we've heard from Murphy and Gute is deafening. They've basically left the coach to manage the fallout from this all while staying silent and behind the scenes. I'm pretty astonished that someone like Mark Murphy who interjected himself at the top of the hierarchy of team operations a couple of years ago, has not wanted to take the heat off the coach and let Matt LaFleur focus on game prep.

Yes they are hiding, which shows lack of leadership.


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isocleas2
3 years ago
I know some of Rodgers "medical staff", it's a bunch of alt-medicine advocates where the nurses were fired from actual medical offices because they refused to be vaccinated themselves. He literally wears some concussion helmet (their term) that does little more than a tinfoil hat would. Not surprised at all they recommended he not take the vaccine.

They're basically Dr Mercola wannabes.
earthquake
3 years ago
"Trust me, I talked to Joe Rogan and some people who may or may not be actual doctors and want absolutely nothing to do with this mess so I can't tell you their names."
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earthquake
3 years ago

That notwithstanding, IF the Packers knew, and IF he in fact largely followed the non-vaxxed protocols, I don't know that there will be legal or league rammification.

Originally Posted by: KRK 



Yeah, I don't think the NFL cares. It seems like the worst he did here, in terms of NFL rules, is not wearing a mask when speaking to the media. But other players/QBs (Cousins, someone else I think) have done this and got away with it too. So I doubt the NFL does much if anything in this case, other than perhaps to clarify the rules for talking to the media and strongly suggests Rodgers et al knock it off (ie: wear a mask or do interviews via zoom like Lazard has been doing). Maybe a small fine.
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Zero2Cool
3 years ago

To be fair, Aaron mentioned he is not an anti-vaxxer on Pat McAfee's show today.

Only throwing that out there because Aaron doesn't consider himself as one. If you paid close attention to his words, though, it's hard not to come away thinking he has some personal anti-vax leanings -- kept talking about his "medical team" comprised of "medical individuals" and "medical professionals". In fact, the only time Aaron referenced "doctor" is when referring to the NFL's main doctor in connection with NFL's determination of COVID vaccination status.

Aaron has to protect himself from being called a liar. But it's interesting that his speech today on Pat McAfee's show that this is all about public perception, and has nothing to do with mitigating possible fines and or punishment imposable on him from the NFL. In other words, this is all damage control from a PR perspective; hopefully it works to sooth some NFL owner enough so that they trade a boatload of picks this off-season when the Packers move on from him.

Originally Posted by: all_about_da_packers 



While listening to him for the full interview while focusing on what he was saying. I got the impression he's someone who has the financial means to research things by consulting doctors and paying for a team of doctors to help answer his questions and concerns. He comes off like someone who cares about his body and doesn't think there is a blanket cure-all for everyone. And since he has the financial means, he is using those resources. But I also was listening to understand, not listening to vilify like some I've read on the Tweeter.
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Zero2Cool
3 years ago

"Trust me, I talked to Joe Rogan and some people who may or may not be actual doctors and want absolutely nothing to do with this mess so I can't tell you their names."

Originally Posted by: earthquake 



Referring to my previous post. Someone who has the financial means that he does and he's consulting Joe Rogan? Maybe I don't give Joe enough credit, but I wouldn't trust him. Especially if I have the money for seeing multiple doctors and such.
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earthquake
3 years ago

Referring to my previous post. Someone who has the financial means that he does and he's consulting Joe Rogan? Maybe I don't give Joe enough credit, but I wouldn't trust him. Especially if I have the money for seeing multiple doctors and such.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



My wife and I were talking about this yesterday. Our theory is there is a certain threshold where being obscenely wealthy makes you dumber. See: Elon Musk. Also, Aaron Rodgers, apparently.
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