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15 years ago
I don't mind sliding down but 23 might be a little low.. and all those spots just for an extra second... anyway... it begins.. now. :lol:

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/43624562.html 

Report: Patriots might want to trade with Packers
By Greg A. Bedard of the Journal Sentinel
Apr. 24, 2009 11:12 a.m.

Ted Thompson may have found his trading partner.

Sports Illustrated's Peter King is reporting the New England Patriots are attempting to trade into the top 10 in order to likely pick LSU defensive end Tyson Jackson.

So far the Jaguars at No. 8 have rejected the deal, which would be for a second-round pick.

From King:

Busy morning. The Patriots are trying to move up into the top 10 of the draft -- but low in the top 10. Executives from two teams tell me New England offered its first-round pick and middle of three second-round picks (the 23rd and 47th picks overall) to Jacksonville for the eighth pick in the draft. Jacksonville GM Gene Smith, I'm told, said no ... but I also hear the Patriots might be looking to Green Bay at nine to move as well.

Who might be the object of their affection? I'm told it may be a surprise, because smart money would say the target is LSU's Tyson Jackson, the best 3-4 defensive end in the draft and the only end versatile enough to play every spot on the defensive line. But I'm not sure it's Jackson. I think it might be an offensive player. Sorry to be so cryptic, but I truly don't know.

The Patriots are Fort Knox on draft weekend -- and, for that matter, on every weekend. Remember last year? New England traded down from seven to 10 in the first round and got the object of its affection, Tennessee linebacker Jerod Mayo, and no one ever knew Mayo was their man.

It makes infinite sense that New England would want the eighth or ninth pick, because the line of demarcation between sanity and insanity in the top 10 is right there. Check out the money that each of the players between six and 10 in last year's draft would earn with minimum play-time incentives in their five-year contracts:

6. Vernon Gholston, Jets $32.5 million
7. Sedrick Ellis, New Orleans $32 million
8. Derrick Harvey, Jacksonville $23 million
9. Keith Rivers, Cincinnati $19 million
10. Jerod Mayo, New England $16 million

It figures that New England would be targeting the eighth pick, or ninth. It's called being ahead of the curve.

My question would be this: If 3-4 maven Bill Belichick wants Jackson at No. 9, shouldn't the Packers, a newly minted 3-4 team? If the Packers were still a 4-3 team like the Jaguars, it would be a no-brainer. The Patriots are likely trying to jump ahead of the Packers for that reason. But Thompson should be able to drive up the price for that pick considering he could just stay and pick Jackson.


"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Zero2Cool
15 years ago
Will not happen. Ted has his eye on two defensive players that will be gone in the top 15. It will take more than a 2nd to get us out of the top 15 🙂
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DarkaneRules
15 years ago
The Patriots are up to their annual trickery. When it is this close to the draft be veeeery curious about reports like this.
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15 years ago
Uhhh the Patriots better offer up more than that. Horrible value. I'll take Wilfork and their 1st though. 😃
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dfosterf
15 years ago

Will not happen. Ted has his eye on two defensive players that will be gone in the top 15. It will take more than a 2nd to get us out of the top 15 :)

"SlickVision" wrote:



What if Ted is targeting Peppers and wants to use the 23 in trade?

I'm not saying I'm for it, because I personally am not, I'm just saying that if he was thinking along those lines it would be one of the ways to go about it.

End result:

Peppers and a second (47th) for our 9.... (Plus obscene $$$, of course)

Now, what I WOULD be for, I'm pretty sure, (no way of knowing until we are "on the clock") is the Pats 23rd and 34th--- not the 47th.
15 years ago
We would lose so much value in the Patriots trade, we could easily work something out with better value and still trade a later 1st pick away for Peppers.
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ILikeThePackers39
15 years ago
Eeesh... 23 seems pretty low, unless we're positive that either anyone we really want will be gone by 9 or that some very-desired guy is going to slide a good ways.

And I'm with dfosterf - 23 and 47 is NOT going to get it done. If we go all they way back to 23 I'd want their 34, for sure.
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wils0646
15 years ago
For the 23rd and 34th, I'd do it. We'd have the 23rd, 34th, and 41st picks in a mediocre talented draft. It would be perfect to be loaded in this area on the board.
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warhawk
15 years ago
First of all I think Jackson would be a good pick for us anyhow.

If that's the case the thing to do would be to pick him and then if NE wants him later they would have to give us the #34 AND we would know who's left on the board.
If there's somebody there Ted Thompson feels is just as good as Jackson for us then the #34 is a freebee.

There will be a lot of good players sitting at #34.
"The train is leaving the station."
Cheesey
15 years ago

First of all I think Jackson would be a good pick for us anyhow.

If that's the case the thing to do would be to pick him and then if NE wants him later they would have to give us the #34 AND we would know who's left on the board.
If there's somebody there Ted Thompson feels is just as good as Jackson for us then the #34 is a freebee.

There will be a lot of good players sitting at #34.

"warhawk" wrote:


Thats a good line of thinking Hawk. I never thought of it that way.
+1!
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