Zero2Cool
3 years ago
"Keep an eye on the #Packers for former #Cowboys Pro Bowl LB Jaylon Smith, sources say. They are making a push. Coach Matt LaFleur was at Notre Dame with Smith and is a fan. Multiple teams are still in the mix, as well, and it’s not over yet."

I liked this kid coming out of college. I was glad to see him doing well after his recovery.


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Mucky Tundra
3 years ago
Could-or should-the Packers inquire about Jaylon Smith? 

No, the Green Bay Packers aren't in dire need — or in any need at all, really — for a starting middle linebacker.

Fortunately for them, De'Vondre Campbell already holds that distinction and he's done so to an unprecedented extent in spite of joining the team in June. The quick turnaround from minicamp to training camp by the end of July didn't hinder his ability to hone in on his responsibilities under defensive coordinator Joe Barry.

Not only does he lead the team in tackles through four games, but he's been every bit of what he was advertised as in terms of his coverage ability. He's been targeted 26 times, according to Pro Football Focus, and he's surrendered 17 catches for just 86 yards along with an interception and a pass break-up. His presence alone has infused the second level of the Packers' defense with flexibility that allows Campbell to play in different areas of the field — he's tallied snaps at outside linebacker as well as in the slot covering bigger-bodied tight ends.

He's the undisputed No. 1 linebacker in Green Bay.

... And then what?



I don't know if I would say there's no need, since Barnes is solid for a UDFA but he's no All-Pro. But Smith, did his play decline that badly since 2019? Or is it just a scheme change?
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beast
3 years ago

Could-or should-the Packers inquire about Jaylon Smith? 



I don't know if I would say there's no need, since Barnes is solid for a UDFA but he's no All-Pro. But Smith, did his play decline that badly since 2019? Or is it just a scheme change?

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



It was a scheme change (from Falcons) and they've brought in at least three other LBers (one from the Falcons), one arguably the best defensive player in the draft, and the other was the best graded coverage LB for the last two years in college they got in the 4th round... and some are speculating he was happy with limited playing time, having being in the top 3 every year for the past 3 years in defensive snaps for the Cowboys and always over 90%, he's played less than 50% in two games.


Though what I don't understand, and why grab LB Jaylon Smith instead of CB Stephon Gilmore?

Especially with Alexander and King injured and no one injured at ILB?

Don't get me wrong, 49ers did show a clear weakness there especially when Barnes got injured, but he's back... and you can sorta cover up for a weak LB play, but you can't for CB

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Zero2Cool
3 years ago

Though what I don't understand, and why grab LB Jaylon Smith instead of CB Stephon Gilmore?

Originally Posted by: beast 


Because Gilmore was traded and the salary cap implications weren't there for the Packers to consume his salary. Apparently there was mutual interest, but you apparently can't exceed the salary cap. I thought you could during the season. Anyhow, if Gilmore was released, there was a chance he'd sign with Packers. Jaylon Smith is released and free to sign with whomever he chooses. UNLESS there's a waiver claim deal to with.

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beast
3 years ago

Because Gilmore was traded and the salary cap implications weren't there for the Packers to consume his salary. Apparently there was mutual interest, but you apparently can't exceed the salary cap. I thought you could during the season. Anyhow, if Gilmore was released, there was a chance he'd sign with Packers. Jaylon Smith is released and free to sign with whomever he chooses. UNLESS there's a waiver claim deal to with.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


But the Packers do have the Salary Cap space to intake Gilmore's contract. That excuse (which I believe the Packers gave), doesn't work by itself.

Also in theory any team that grabs him and lets him leave in FA might get a 4th round comp pick, or maybe even a 3rd... so the fact the Patriots only got a 6th is shockingly low.

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Mucky Tundra
3 years ago

It was a scheme change (from Falcons) and they've brought in at least three other LBers (one from the Falcons), one arguably the best defensive player in the draft, and the other was the best graded coverage LB for the last two years in college they got in the 4th round... and some are speculating he was happy with limited playing time, having being in the top 3 every year for the past 3 years in defensive snaps for the Cowboys and always over 90%, he's played less than 50% in two games.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Thanks for clarifying. The article, while informative on Smith, didn't really delve into the other LBs and explain why they surpassed him on the depth chart.
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Mucky Tundra
3 years ago

But the Packers do have the Salary Cap space to intake Gilmore's contract. That excuse (which I believe the Packers gave), doesn't work by itself.

Also in theory any team that grabs him and lets him leave in FA might get a 4th round comp pick, or maybe even a 3rd... so the fact the Patriots only got a 6th is shockingly low.

Originally Posted by: beast 



I think they could sign Gilmore but have zero space left for other in season moves. Also, Gilmore wanted to play somewhere near his home in Carolina, so that narrowed it down to a handful of teams.


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beast
3 years ago

Thanks for clarifying. The article, while informative on Smith, didn't really delve into the other LBs and explain why they surpassed him on the depth chart.

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



The 4th rounder that was great coverage in college didn't surpass him, but the first rounder did, and supposively the Defensive coordinator from the Falcons liked the LB from the Falcons... and they already had Leighton Vander Esch whom is another 1st rounder who has been on the Cowboys with Smith before.
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3 years ago
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nerdmann
3 years ago
I like Campbell, Barnes and McDuffie. SB or bust I guess. 👍
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