Panthers Acquire Gilmore for Sixth-Round Pick

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

3 years ago

Stephon Gilmore, an All-Pro cornerback for the Patriots in 2018 and 2019, landed with an NFC contender but not the Green Bay Packers.

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The only way the Packers were landing Stephon Gilmore was via picking him up after he was released. He didn't get released, he got traded. The Packers were NOT able to absorb the $5.4 million under the salary cap. This was not the Packers not trying hard enough. This is math. I understand some (ignorantly) think salary cap is not real, but it is. They don't have more players they can restructure.

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earthquake
Member

3 years ago

I misread "Panthers" as "Packers" when I read the title of this post and got excited. Oh well, yeah with the cap this didn't seem like it was particularly realistic.

Maybe if they had been able to agree to a long-term extension for him that pushed all the cap into future years? I don't understand the cap well enough to know if that would have been possible. I imagine he'll be looking for a big contract which the Packers likely couldn't afford in that case anyway.

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beast
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3 years ago

I think I get it, but I disagree with the word choice, as Packers have a $7 million cap space, so they could handle his $5 million contract...

But you need about $7 million just to keep on hand to operate and sign players to replace injured players... and they've already maxed out their normal available options to get that ...

That being said, I think if they asked the players if they free up $5 million, so go for it all this set with him, some would step up... I mean Alexander, Gilmore and Stokes.

Also note, King got what $6 million, and now we can't afford Gilmore for $5 million, just saying...

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

3 years ago

Originally Posted by: beast

I'm not sure about the needing $7 million seeing as quite a few teams have less than that. Also, if you're inferring the Packers should have traded King for Gilmore, I believe Packers are still on the hook for that salary hit. BUT, I think you mean the Packers plopped $6 million on Kevin King when $5.4 million could have landed you Gilmore. Problem is, that is hindsight. You can't really know you could get Stephon Gilmore over a month into the season for a late round pick.

If the Packers were to have agreed to a long-term deal, how's that work? Aren't the Packers severely over the 2022 projected salary cap already? That is some cap gymnastics I am not confident in my understanding.

beast
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3 years ago

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

It might not be $7 million, but it's not free, and Thompson used to keep about $5 million available, and the number of PS players and minimum wage has only gone up since making it more expensive.

beast
Select Member

3 years ago

They didn't have cap room for CB Gilmore, because they believe they were signing Jaylon Smith already? Just a theory...

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

3 years ago

Even on the radio I was hearing them talking about how they understood how Packers really couldn't trade for Stephon Gilmore. And as I cruise through the Tweeter today, I'm seeing that others are understanding it too.

The question about why trade for 6th when there's a chance he'll net a 4th or 5th in compensatory does intrigue me. The compensatory pick would be 2023 as well, right? Maybe Patriots are planning on signing some free agents in 2022 that would negate the compensation?

So much complications ... lol

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