beast
3 years ago

Packers GM Brian Gutekunst says Randall Cobb is still a good player, but makes clear his return via trade is for Aaron Rodgers: "I don't think without Aaron we would be perusing this. ... This is a very important thing for Aaron, so that's why we did it."

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Yeah, normally Gute wouldn't want to block a young guys growth and I'm sure he was hoping the 3rd rounder WR Rodgers would be filling the role Cobb is going to play.

I feel like Gute was trying to go all in, over the next couple of years until 2023, but now his plan is changing going all in now this year as we don't know we're going to have Rodgers, Adams and others back or not...
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go.pack.go.
3 years ago

Packers GM Brian Gutekunst says Randall Cobb is still a good player, but makes clear his return via trade is for Aaron Rodgers: "I don't think without Aaron we would be perusing this. ... This is a very important thing for Aaron, so that's why we did it."

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I don’t see the point in basically saying “we don’t want Randall but Aaron does so we did it”.... that sends a horrible message to Cobb, to Rodgers, and the rest of the team. And it makes himself look bad. I just don’t get it. Keep that part quiet, damn. Maybe he’s just pissed that Rodgers told so many details about the off-season.
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Cheesey
3 years ago

Yeah, normally Gute wouldn't want to block a young guys growth and I'm sure he was hoping the 3rd rounder WR Rodgers would be filling the role Cobb is going to play.

I feel like Gute was trying to go all in, over the next couple of years until 2023, but now his plan is changing going all in now this year as we don't know we're going to have Rodgers, Adams and others back or not...

Originally Posted by: beast 



I agree with you. This is the time to go for the SB.
So 5 mill to get Cobb to make Rodgers happy is a low price.
Of course, if they don’t win it all, it’s going to look like a waste.
I hope they do win it all.
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beast
3 years ago

I don’t see the point in basically saying “we don’t want Randall but Aaron does so we did it”.... that sends a horrible message to Cobb, to Rodgers, and the rest of the team. And it makes himself look bad. I just don’t get it. Keep that part quiet, damn. Maybe he’s just pissed that Rodgers told so many details about the off-season.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 


I think it make Gute look great... basically saying we have a failed relationship here, and we're actively working hard to improve the relationship. We're not ignoring the problem, but trying to fix it, and Rodgers is getting something he wants. We're listening and improving.

Also fans complain when the team says nothing (see Ted era), and then fans compare when they're open and honest (see Gute era)...

I agree that it's not a great message to Cobb, but hey, Cobb, do you want to be with the rebuilding Texans or the playoff bound Packers? Packers? Congratulations, we thought so and are giving you $5+ million and a 6th round pick for you! He's gett his same pay and higher chance of going into the playoffs.

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Zero2Cool
3 years ago

I don’t see the point in basically saying “we don’t want Randall but Aaron does so we did it”.... that sends a horrible message to Cobb, to Rodgers, and the rest of the team. And it makes himself look bad. I just don’t get it. Keep that part quiet, damn. Maybe he’s just pissed that Rodgers told so many details about the off-season.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 



Maybe it's self-handicapping? If Randall Cobb flops, we all know it was a move sparked by Aaron Rodgers. If Randall Cobb success, he looks good for trying to make his QB happy and showing humility. I feel his wording today put him in a win-win.
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go.pack.go.
3 years ago

Maybe it's self-handicapping? If Randall Cobb flops, we all know it was a move sparked by Aaron Rodgers. If Randall Cobb success, he looks good for trying to make his QB happy and showing humility. I feel his wording today put him in a win-win.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I think if Cobb is a success, it makes him look bad for being against the move.
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beast
3 years ago

I think if Cobb is a success, it makes him look bad for being against the move.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 



Yeah, but actions speak louder than words and he pulled the trigger! That overrides everything else...

And kind of hard to say he's against it, when he's the only one with power to pull the trigger and he decided to pull the trigger. It's not his optimal preference, but he was for it enough that he pulled the trigger, and again, the actions speak louder than words.
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go.pack.go.
3 years ago

Yeah, but actions speak louder than words and he pulled the trigger! That overrides everything else...

And kind of hard to say he's against it, when he's the only one with power to pull the trigger and he decided to pull the trigger. It's not his optimal preference, but he was for it enough that he pulled the trigger, and again, the actions speak louder than words.

Originally Posted by: beast 



I guess that’s true. But it does put Rodgers in an “I told you so” position.

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beast
3 years ago

I guess that’s true. But it does put Rodgers in an “I told you so” position.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 


And if Rodgers gets that chance to say it, then they all win, as Cobb was successful on the team, making it worth it for all Packers involved.

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Cheesey
3 years ago

And if Rodgers gets that chance to say it, then they all win, as Cobb was successful on the team, making it worth it for all Packers involved.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Of course then we will lose Aaron Rodgers at the end of this coming season, as if he’s right, Cobb does great and they win it all, then Rodgers HAS to go, as they won’t have a helmet big enough to fit his head!
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