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So, today Adam Schefter reported Aaron Rodgers is "so disgruntled " with the Green Bay Packers that he's told some within the organization he does not want to return to the team. The Packers flew President Mark Murphy out to Rodgers, they flew GM Brian Gutenkunst and also flew HC Matt LaFleur to talk with Rodgers. According to the report, the information was told to ESPN via "league and team sources".

That last part indicates it was not Aaron Rodgers who was the source and instead was someone within the league (e.g. James Jones?) or someone from the team (e.g. Team Pilot?). Rodgers cares about his legacy and how he's viewed so I really do not believe he'd push this out, especially the day of the draft. It's not his style, nor does he want ill will pushed onto Jordan Love. Say what you want, he has stated he's been in that position before and appreciates it.

Throughout this off-season the media inundated us with how Rodgers wanted commitment from the team in the form of an extension, not a restructure. According to the same Adam Schefter (reported April 21st, 2021), the Packers offered a contract extension.

We also heard that the Packers need to surround Rodgers with weapons. Let's not forget the offense has an All-Pro LT, All-Pro WR, and Top 5 RB to go along with the league leader in TE TD's. Oh yeah, plus the NFL MVP himself. Rodgers is a really smart guy and you damn well know he's aware of the Packers salary cap limitations. So, that whole Packers need weapons mantra doesn't jive. Especially when you consider the Packers went to the NFC Championship back-to-back years.

I've also read that the Jordan Love pick is why Rodgers wants to leave, or at the very least is a source of his being disgruntled. People are quick to point out the Packers traded up to draft Love, as if they went from 30th overall to 10th overall. The Packers moved up FOUR spots to draft Love. At the time, Rodgers was a 36 year old QB who hadn't thrown over 30 TD's since 2016. The Packers have every right to start thinking about the future. Rodgers has publicly stated he understands this and I believe him.

This leaves me wondering, what is he pissed off about? Make no question, the team doesn't send the Head Coach, the General Manager and the President of the organization to talk to someone who is happy. So, I believe he is pissed off, but what about?

I've heard Rodgers say he understood the Jordan Love pick (stating he understands the NFL is a business), however, [I've read that] he felt the team could have told him in advance -- even if it was a phone call minutes prior to the pick. While I think that could be something Rodgers is upset about, I just don't see him wanting to play for a new team because of it.

Apparently from Ian Rapoport frustration started with the Jordan Love pick and heated up with contract this offseason, team wanted simple restructure but Aaron Rodgers wanted an extension, frustration boiled over, trade calls started from other teams. Rapoport also Tweeted "Over the last month, Aaron Rodgers  had his agent Dave Dunn fly out to Green Bay for several days of meetings to work through the situation. Rodgers refused a restructure. Wanted an extension. Teams called knowing he wasn’t happy. GB rebuffed them. Offered an extension. No deal."

The only thing I can surmise from all of this would be the Packers wanted to restructure (btw, they can just do it without consent of the player) and Rodgers wanted an extension. Packers adjusted and offered a contract extension, but I'm guessing the damage was done and it was too little too late.

This just doesn't add up to what Rodgers has said publicly or during interviews or how he's acted over his career.

That said, if truly wants out then trade him and move on. Remember that 2009 season when Brett Favre statistically had one of, if not his best season? Do you also remember how far he dropped in 2010? The drop-off is sudden and fast. It can happen to anyone at nearly any time.

Detailed report from Ian Rapoport.


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Gutey won't let him run the front office.

TRADED!?

PLEASE TRADE DOWN GUTEY!
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Another QB wanting to hold the team hostage???
I’m frustrated by this.
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Gutey won't let him run the front office.

TRADED!?

PLEASE TRADE DOWN GUTEY!

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Another QB wanting to hold the team hostage???
I’m frustrated by this.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



I skipped making dinner and ordered the family pizza so I could write this up and you two clowns comment and don't even read it? Your membership fees are being tripled!!
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Based on that, my reasoning (which could be totally wrong), Rodgers wanted a contract that he could retire as a Packers with, and he could control not being traded.

Then the Packers actions made it clear that's not going to happen... so if Rodgers is going to.be forced out, he wants it to happen not, and not wait wondering when it might happen and dealing with all the media questions...
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I skipped making dinner and ordered the family pizza so I could write this up and you two clowns comment and don't even read it? Your membership fees are being tripled!!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Lucky family! Their dinner got upgraded! ;-)

Now I want some pizza! 🍕
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I skipped making dinner and ordered the family pizza so I could write this up and you two clowns comment and don't even read it? Your membership fees are being tripled!!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I am OFFENDED by that comment!
That’s “MR. CLOWN” to you!!!

And TRIPLING my membership fees???
Three times nothing is STILL too much to pay for being here!!😂😂😂🤪
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Lucky family! Their dinner got upgraded! ;-)

Now I want some pizza! 🍕

Originally Posted by: beast 



LoL, probably. I was going to make spaghetti until this Schefter guy changed things!
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Another QB wanting to hold the team hostage???
I’m frustrated by this.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Me too, but Im not too shocked.
I am a woman and I love football.
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Also, Green Bay went out and got him when the youngest, brightest minds in the NFL with the offense that everyone wants now to make his life easier.
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TE Mercedes Lewis was asked about Aaron Rodgers. Listen to what this man says. You hear this, you read what I said. This doesn't make sense.

https://www.tmz.com/2021/04/29/marcedes-lewis-aaron-rodgers-green-bay-packers/ 
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TE Mercedes Lewis was asked about Aaron Rodgers. Listen to what this man says. You hear this, you read what I said. This doesn't make sense.

https://www.tmz.com/2021/04/29/marcedes-lewis-aaron-rodgers-green-bay-packers/ 

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Sounds like he knows nothing and just states the standard PC lines

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I'm guessing that he's not actually pissed (or at least not more so than his usual state of being, which seems to be in a constant state of "someone has wronged me" - something that has served him well in his career), and this is all just a bit of posturing to try and gain some leverage for a contract extension that makes it hard for the Packers to cut or trade him in the next 3 years. Rodgers is a smart guy so he likely understands that demanding a trade is the only way he has any leverage in this situation. We've heard from (dubious anonymous) sources that an extension was offered, but we don't know the length or terms of it so it's difficult to really form much of an opinion on how reasonable the offer was.

I could easily see the Packer's front office trying to convince Rodgers to take a lower value deal due the circumstances surrounding 2020/covid/ reduced cap space. They would be borderline incompetent if they weren't taking this position.

I guess what I'm saying is this is likely a game of chicken from both sides. We'll see who flinches first.

It's disappointing that it has come to this, but I wasn't going to confuse Aaron Rodgers for Tom Brady when it comes to maximizing his contracts for personal gain. In the same breath, I'm not surprised and wouldn't blame the Packer's front office for trying to get a team friendly deal, and doing whatever they can to keep their options open with an aging QB that will undoubtedly have a very high cap number as long as he is part of the team.

There's a lot of hand wringing and manufactured drama going on here - it reminds me of the Russell Wilson trade story (or non-story as it has been so far) - so it's hard to take the situation very seriously at this point.
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I'm guessing that he's not actually pissed (or at least not more so than his usual state of being, which seems to be in a constant state of "someone has wronged me" - something that has served him well in his career), and this is all just a bit of posturing to try and gain some leverage for a contract extension that makes it hard for the Packers to cut or trade him in the next 3 years. Rodgers is a smart guy so he likely understands that demanding a trade is the only way he has any leverage in this situation. We've heard from (dubious anonymous) sources that an extension was offered, but we don't know the length or terms of it so it's difficult to really form much of an opinion on how reasonable the offer was.

I could easily see the Packer's front office trying to convince Rodgers to take a lower value deal due the circumstances surrounding 2020/covid/ reduced cap space. They would be borderline incompetent if they weren't taking this position.

I guess what I'm saying is this is likely a game of chicken from both sides. We'll see who flinches first.

It's disappointing that it has come to this, but I wasn't going to confuse Aaron Rodgers for Tom Brady when it comes to maximizing his contracts for personal gain. In the same breath, I'm not surprised and wouldn't blame the Packer's front office for trying to get a team friendly deal, and doing whatever they can to keep their options open with an aging QB that will undoubtedly have a very high cap number as long as he is part of the team.

There's a lot of hand wringing and manufactured drama going on here - it reminds me of the Russell Wilson trade story (or non-story as it has been so far) - so it's hard to take the situation very seriously at this point.

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Well said.

The more I've read (and I have read a LOT) about this, the more I think yes Rodgers is a bit ticked about something this just really spiraled into something far more than it is. I actually think Rodgers would be more pissed off about the Schefter report coming out than what really upset him. I don't think this makes him look good in the public eye and we all know he really wants that Jeopardy! gig.

I just don't know. The more I facts I consume, the less the tone of the Schefter report makes sense to me.

This sums things up decently.

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Well said.

The more I've read (and I have read a LOT) about this, the more I think yes Rodgers is a bit ticked about something this just really spiraled into something far more than it is. I actually think Rodgers would be more pissed off about the Schefter report coming out than what really upset him. I don't think this makes him look good in the public eye and we all know he really wants that Jeopardy! gig.

I just don't know. The more I facts I consume, the less the tone of the Schefter report makes sense to me.

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I've been staying away from this story because 10% of it is true and 90% of it is media hype because that's what they do. I'm sure it's posturing on both sides to get the best deal from their perspective. As for who leaked it, I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't come from Rodger's camp with his consent. He would not have a stronger bargain position for a trade than yesterday afternoon. So why not shoot off a flare and see what happens? In the long run it will all blow over and the two sides will play nice and work out a deal. Rodgers will have a 5-6 year deal paying him obscene amounts of money. Love will be left twisting in the wind wondering when he will see the field.
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Aaron is not a bitter psycho because the Packers drafted Jordan Love. The Packers drafted Love, because Aaron is a bitter psycho.
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Aaron is not a bitter psycho because the Packers drafted Jordan Love. The Packers drafted Love, because Aaron is a bitter psycho.

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This doesn't fit anything ever about Aaron Rodgers throughout his professional career. Nothing would even remotely come close to him being a bitter psycho. Nothing.

I really am believing this whole thing is about Rodgers wanting some guaranteed years beyond 2021. It feels like Rodgers wants the Packers to show him some love (not that Love) by committing to him via contract beyond 2021. My assumption is the Packers and Rodgers agree to a contract extension/restructure of some kind that keeps Rodgers playing in Green Bay for 2021 and 2022 -- maybe even 2023. It just seems like for sure 2021 and 2022 he's our QB. After the 2022 season he'll be 38 and who knows what physical shape he'll be in.

If he doesn't want to play for the Packers, I am not sure it's Super Bowl's he wants then.

Bottom line -- this all just doesn't add up.

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This doesn't fit anything ever about Aaron Rodgers throughout his professional career. Nothing would even remotely come close to him being a bitter psycho. Nothing.

I really am believing this whole thing is about Rodgers wanting some guaranteed years beyond 2021. It feels like Rodgers wants the Packers to show him some love (not that Love) by committing to him via contract beyond 2021. My assumption is the Packers and Rodgers agree to a contract extension/restructure of some kind that keeps Rodgers playing in Green Bay for 2021 and 2022 -- maybe even 2023. It just seems like for sure 2021 and 2022 he's our QB. After the 2022 season he'll be 38 and who knows what physical shape he'll be in.

If he doesn't want to play for the Packers, I am not sure it's Super Bowl's he wants then.

Bottom line -- this all just doesn't add up.

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Aaron wants to run the front office. Problem is, he can't win the Big Game. On average, he's been in the Championship game every other year for a decade, but has only won it once.

The team wants someone who can get it done, not someone who's out there worrying about his legacy on third and long.

Now Aaron's holding a grudge, just like he does over that time he slid on draft day. But this time it's only motivating him to be a bitter psycho, not play better.

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Remember last year, Matt's first year as coach? Maybe Matt had enough of Aaron pretending his helmet radio didn't work, playing smart ass games with the coach.

Aaron wants to be The Man, start acting like one. In championship games and off the field.
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Aaron wants to run the front office. Problem is, he can't win the Big Game. On average, he's been in the Championship game every other year for a decade, but has only won it once.

The team wants someone who can get it done, not someone who's out there worrying about his legacy on third and long.

Now Aaron's holding a grudge, just like he does over that time he slid on draft day. But this time it's only motivating him to be a bitter psycho, not play better.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


Uh, being named the MVP isn't playing better?

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