wpr
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3 years ago
I could probably stick this comment into an existing post but Zero gives extra points for starting new threads. 😉 (not really)

What do you expect Gute to do in the first round?

Personally I think he will trade back and pick up more selections. Then he will put together a package to move up into the top 10-12 picks of the second round.
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beast
3 years ago
So far Gute has traded up in every 1st round he's been GM for and has traded four of his five 4th rounders away.

I'm thinking he trades both 4th rounders like he did I'm the trade up for Savage... and he's looking for CBs first... WRs second. If there were more DTa worth a trade up I might suggest that, but doesn't appear to be many of any.

Note: The Alexander year was a trade back, followed by a trade up, so net a trade back, but there was still a trade up.
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3 years ago
I don't think packaging both 4th round picks will be enough.
According to the chart on drafttek they are worth 38 and 35 points. At 29 GB's pick is worth 640. That means they can move up to Jacksonville at 25. More or less.
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nerdmann
3 years ago
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Only got two positions pretty much completed.

CB: 1: Caleb Fairly, Jaycee Horn, Patrick Surtain, Greg Newsome 2: Tyson Campbell, Kelvin Joseph, Eric Stokes, Rodarius Williams, Paulson Abedo, 3: Aaron Robinson, Asante Samuel, Isarel Mukuamu, Elijah Molden, 4: Shaun Wade, Ifeatu Melifonwu, CB/S, Tre Brown, Trill Williams, Tariq Castro-Fields, 5: Ambry Thomas, Thomas Graham, Robert Rochell, Keith Taylor, Brandin Echols, Kary Vincent, Shakur Brown, 6: Camryn Bynum, Marco Wilson, Deommodore Lenoir, Bryce Thompson, D.J. Daniel

DE: 1: Kwity Paye, Jaelan Phillips, 2: Carlos Basham, Gregory Rousseau, Jayson Oweh, Joe Tryon DE/OLB, Patrick Jones, 3: Dayo Odeyingbo (injury sleeper), Rashad Weaver, Payton Turner, Cameron Sample, Janarius Robinson, Victor Dimukeje, Ta’Quan Graham, DE/DT, 4: Quincy Roche, Malcolm Koonce, DE/OLB, Elerson Smith, Adetokunbo Ogundeji, Shaka Toney, DE/OLB, 5: Daelin Hayes, DE/OLB, Michael Clemons, DE, Tarron Jackson, Chauncey Golston, Malik Herring, Wyatt Hubert, Joshua Kaindoh, 6: Jonathon Cooper, William Bradley-King, Marquiss Spencer, Jamal Hines, DE/OLB, Chauncey Manac, DE/OLB


“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
TheKanataThrilla
3 years ago

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Only got two positions pretty much completed.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


I love the draft with you my friend and your rankings. Can't wait until Thursday and hope to see you and everyone else in the chat.
Cheesey
3 years ago
I never know enough about college players to make intelligent comments about any of them.
I learn more coming to this site then anything.
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nerdmann
3 years ago
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CB: 1: Caleb Fairly, Jaycee Horn, Patrick Surtain, Greg Newsome 2: Tyson Campbell, Kelvin Joseph, Eric Stokes, Rodarius Williams, Paulson Abedo, 3: Aaron Robinson, Asante Samuel, Isarel Mukuamu, Elijah Molden, 4: Shaun Wade, Ifeatu Melifonwu, CB/S, Tre Brown, Trill Williams, Tariq Castro-Fields, 5: Ambry Thomas, Thomas Graham, Robert Rochell, Keith Taylor, Brandin Echols, Kary Vincent, Shakur Brown, 6: Camryn Bynum, Marco Wilson, Deommodore Lenoir, Bryce Thompson, D.J. Daniel

OT: 1: Penei Sewell, Alijah Vera Tucker OT/G,, Rashawn Slater OT/C/G, Jalen Mayfield. Sam Cosmi 2: Alex Leatherwood, Christian Darrisaw, Teven Jenkins, James Hudson, Dillon Radunz, D’Ante Smith, 3: Jackson Carman, Liam Eichenberg, Spencer Brown, Dan Moore Jr., Brady Christensen, Stone Forsythe, Jake Curhan, 4: Alaric Jackson, Adrian Ealy (developmental sleeper), Larnel Coleman, 5: Walker Little, Landon Young, Sadarius Hutcherson, OT/G, Carson Green, D’Ante Demery (developmental sleeper), Greg Eiland (developmental sleeper), 6: Brenden Jaimes, Syrus Tuitele

Edge: 1: Kwity Paye DE/OLB, Jaelan Phillips, Zaven Collins , 2: Carlos Basham, Gregory Rousseau, Jayson Oweh, Joe Tryon DE/OLB, Patrick Jones, 3: Dayo Odeyingbo (injury sleeper), Rashad Weaver, Payton Turner, Cameron Sample, Janarius Robinson, Victor Dimukeje, Ta’Quan Graham, DE/DT, Joseph Ossai, Baron Browning, Elerson Smith, 4: Quincy Roche, Malcolm Koonce, DE/OLB, Elerson Smith, Adetokunbo Ogundeji, Shaka Toney, DE/OLB, Hamilcar Rashed Jr., DeAngelo Malone, 5: Daelin Hayes, DE/OLB, Michael Clemons, DE, Tarron Jackson, Chauncey Golston, Malik Herring, Wyatt Hubert, Joshua Kaindoh, 6: Jonathon Cooper, William Bradley-King, Marquiss Spencer, Jamal Hines, DE/OLB, Chauncey Manac, DE/OLB

DT: 1: Levi Onwuzurike, 2: Christian Barmore, Deyo Odeyingbo DT/DE, Daviyon Nixon, Carlos Basham, Rashad Weaver, 3: Jay Tufele, Tyler Shelvin, Jared Goldwire, Jerome Johnson, Osa Odighizuwa, Tedarrell Slaton, 4: Marvin Wilson, Ta’Quan Graham, DT/DE, 5: Bobby Brown, Naquan Jones, Quinton Bohanna, Khyiris Tonga, Michael Clemons, 6: Jordon Scott, 7: Mustafa Johnson, Marquiss Spencer

LB: 1: Micah Parsons, Jamin Davis, 2: Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, Jabril Cox, 3: Azeez Ojulari, JaCoby Stevens, Charles Snowden, Chaz Surratt, Monty Rice, Dorian Etheridge, 4: Nick Bolton, Derrick Barnes, Jordan Smith, Dylan Moses, Tony Fields II, 5: Pete Werner, Grant Stuard, Amen Ogbongbemiga, Cameron McGrone, K.J. Britt, Buddy Johnson, Garret Wallow, 6: Paddy Fisher, Tuf Borland, Erroll Thompson, Riley Cole

S: 2: Trevon Moehrig, Jevon Holland, Richie Grant, 3: Andre Cisco, Talanoa Hufanga, Damar Hamlin, Richard LeCounte, 4: Joshuah Bledsoe, Caden Sterns, Divine Deablo, Shawn Davis, Marcus Murphy, Christian Uphoff, 5: Hamsah Nasirildeen, Paris Ford, Tariq Thompson, James Wiggins, Tyree Gillespie, 6: Darrick Forrest, Dwayne Johnson Jr., 7: Jaquan Brisker, Deontay Anderson
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blueleopard
3 years ago
Melifonwu is at least a 2nd rounder to me. Guy's a beast that made another highly touted future pro in Dyami Brown quit.

Anyway, depending on how the board falls, if Bateman, Toney, Farley, Moehrig, or Newsome aren't there at 29, I trade back.
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dhazer
3 years ago
I say we sit in our spot and we get lucky and Elijah Moore falls to us and we get the much needed slot and gimmick guy. Thats just my guess and I am also predicting the top 10 picks

Lawrence
Wilson
Jones
Pitts
Chase
Smith
Parsons
Horn
Sewell
Surtain II



Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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beast
3 years ago

I say we sit in our spot and we get lucky and Elijah Moore falls to us and we get the much needed slot and gimmick guy. Thats just my guess and I am also predicting the top 10 picks

Lawrence
Wilson
Jones
Pitts
Chase
Smith
Parsons
Horn
Sewell
Surtain II

Originally Posted by: dhazer 


But Gute doesn't like short guys... and this system normally has a large slot WRs.

Also, the defense seriously needs help, though if we stay at 29th, OT, WR and Edge look deep in that part of the draft.

Though Gute will probably make a trade out of 29... I'm guessing up.
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