Cheesey
3 years ago
I still don’t understand the push to have games in England.
NFL Europe didn’t fare so well, did it?
So teams have to spend a day in the air to make the owners happy. Then a day back.
Stupid in my view.
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Zero2Cool
3 years ago

I still don’t understand the push to have games in England.
NFL Europe didn’t fare so well, did it?
So teams have to spend a day in the air to make the owners happy. Then a day back.
Stupid in my view.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



England is paying the NFL a crap ton of money to have games over there. The NFL is trying to broaden it's brand to world wide to expose the sport to more people. The hope is to acquire more talent to put a better (more competitive) product on display. And ultimately, that brings more money.
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beast
3 years ago

I still don’t understand the push to have games in England.
NFL Europe didn’t fare so well, did it?
So teams have to spend a day in the air to make the owners happy. Then a day back.
Stupid in my view.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 


NFL Europe was quite crappy when compared to the actual NFL talent. So just because the Area League failed in certain markets, doesn't mean the NFL would fail I'm those same markets.

I honestly don't like it, because I think American Football should be USA or at least North America game mainly. But owners are chasing the money, and according to some rumors, if England would of let Shad Khan buy the stadium, the Jaguars might be based in England full time already.

Owners are always trying to spread the game to more and especially bigger markets. Just like they have been doing for decades. Just this time, it's over seas.

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Mucky Tundra
3 years ago
Is anyone else annoyed that the symmetry of the NFL season is now gone? 32 teams, 16 to a conference with 4 division winners. 6 games vs your division, 4 games vs another division in your conference and 4 against a division from the other with 2 games based on division standings. 6 teams in the playoffs with 2 byes. 4 games in the first round, 4 games in the 2nd round, 2 conference title games leading to the Super Bowl. Also begs the question of what is the absolute limit to the regular season? I think the most they could go to is 19 games (adding two more non conference games based on division standings).
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beast
3 years ago

Is anyone else annoyed that the symmetry of the NFL season is now gone? 32 teams, 16 to a conference with 4 division winners. 6 games vs your division, 4 games vs another division in your conference and 4 against a division from the other with 2 games based on division standings. 6 teams in the playoffs with 2 byes. 4 games in the first round, 4 games in the 2nd round, 2 conference title games leading to the Super Bowl. Also begs the question of what is the absolute limit to the regular season? I think the most they could go to is 19 games (adding two more non conference games based on division standings).

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



Yes I'm slightly annoyed, though there are much more annoying things to me.... such as the easiest way to score (FG 3 points) is more points than the hardest way to score (Safety 2 points)... screw the punt that follows... there is no need for that. Just make Safety worth 10 point and automatic put the sucky offense in good field position.

And 20 games, as instead of just the Chiefs, we could be facing the entire AFC West.

Though, I think one could argue when we get to 18 games just play more divisions and less based in how a team finished the year before...

Such as this for a schedule. All NFC North teams play
6 division games
4 NFC West
4 NFC East
4 AFC division

But I think they like those where you finished last year, as that's partly how they get the high profile rematches.
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Zero2Cool
3 years ago

Is anyone else annoyed that the symmetry of the NFL season is now gone? 32 teams, 16 to a conference with 4 division winners. 6 games vs your division, 4 games vs another division in your conference and 4 against a division from the other with 2 games based on division standings. 6 teams in the playoffs with 2 byes. 4 games in the first round, 4 games in the 2nd round, 2 conference title games leading to the Super Bowl. Also begs the question of what is the absolute limit to the regular season? I think the most they could go to is 19 games (adding two more non conference games based on division standings).

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



The symmetry is bothersome. What bothers me more is how reading the memorandums it comes off like the NFL is not even trying to hide their insatiable greed while undermining our intelligence at the same time.

I'm not a fan of Thursday games.
I'm not a fan of the fluffed up contracts -- just guarantee them and be done with the salary cap dance.
I'm not a fan of their being no off-season. Sports shows procure narratives that fans consume as fact and it ruins the perceptions of players.
I'm not a fan of what feels like a saturated product called the NFL.
I'm not a fan of players signing a "contract" then holding out or demanding to be traded because they want to be in a "better" situation.

This would have been nice.
2 preseason games
16 regular season games
8 divisions is too many, I think four would be better
1 playoff bye team is asshole greedy


I miss the days of being able to turn my attention to something and not be flooded with fabricated hyperbolic stories to get attention. All I want is to watch the games and follow transactions of players. It seems I have to sift through 100 garbage "hot takes" and then play sleuth to figure out the truth. I spend more time verifying or disproving things a sports show says. The part that really bothers me is most of them know they are blowing smoke up our asses, but they say "it's what you have to do to fill 3 hours of air time". Hell, Jason Wilde just spent 20 some minutes talking about American Idol on his Packers sports show.

I'm a fan of less is more. I just need to turn my head away or find new hobbies. But, I really think I'm probably done once Aaron Rodgers hangs them up.

I am a fan of the COVID-19 modifications the NFL made regarding practice squad and injured reserve. I think they nailed that shit out of the park and I hope it continues.
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beast
3 years ago

So with the 17th game, teams will play overseas at least once every 8 years.

Originally Posted by: beast 



So starting in 2022, the NFL will be traveling more.

The NFL’s international expansion plans were a significant part of Tuesday’s announcement of 17-game seasons, and games appear to be coming to Germany and South America.

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell mentioned both Germany and South America on a call to announce the addition of a 17th game. The most likely South American country to host an NFL game would be Brazil.


The NFL has long had eyes on Germany for several reasons: It’s a big, wealthy country. It has a large English-speaking population. And American football has a fan base there, including many fans who supported the German teams in the now-defunct NFL Europe league (which also operated under the names World League of American Football and NFL Europa).

Beginning in 2022, the NFL will require four teams every year to give up a home game to play internationally, and additional teams may volunteer to play international games.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/31/nfl-likely-to-play-games-in-germany-south-america/  wrote:




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Beast, I never thought of the safety thing. You make a great point. It’s SO hard to get a safety, it SHOULD be worth more points.
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yooperfan
3 years ago

The symmetry is bothersome. What bothers me more is how reading the memorandums it comes off like the NFL is not even trying to hide their insatiable greed while undermining our intelligence at the same time.

I'm not a fan of Thursday games.
I'm not a fan of the fluffed up contracts -- just guarantee them and be done with the salary cap dance.
I'm not a fan of their being no off-season. Sports shows procure narratives that fans consume as fact and it ruins the perceptions of players.
I'm not a fan of what feels like a saturated product called the NFL.
I'm not a fan of players signing a "contract" then holding out or demanding to be traded because they want to be in a "better" situation.

This would have been nice.
2 preseason games
16 regular season games
8 divisions is too many, I think four would be better
1 playoff bye team is asshole greedy


I miss the days of being able to turn my attention to something and not be flooded with fabricated hyperbolic stories to get attention. All I want is to watch the games and follow transactions of players. It seems I have to sift through 100 garbage "hot takes" and then play sleuth to figure out the truth. I spend more time verifying or disproving things a sports show says. The part that really bothers me is most of them know they are blowing smoke up our asses, but they say "it's what you have to do to fill 3 hours of air time". Hell, Jason Wilde just spent 20 some minutes talking about American Idol on his Packers sports show.

I'm a fan of less is more. I just need to turn my head away or find new hobbies. But, I really think I'm probably done once Aaron Rodgers hangs them up.

I am a fan of the COVID-19 modifications the NFL made regarding practice squad and injured reserve. I think they nailed that shit out of the park and I hope it continues.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


I feel 99 percent the same way about the NFL product.
The only difference for me is that I will continue to watch the Green Bay Packers, Rodgers or no Rodgers, until I’m ten toes up out on the North forty.
beast
3 years ago

Beast, I never thought of the safety thing. You make a great point. It’s SO hard to get a safety, it SHOULD be worth more points.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 


Exactly, it should be worth at least TD (really it should be worth more than that). But with all the rules favoring the offense, why not make some common sense rules like this to help the defense? It's rarely going to help...

Plus it'll make those plays when teams are backed up against their own end zone more exciting, as the defense might get more aggressive, and if they do, higher chance for a mistake and some player takes it 90+ yards.


Another one I've never understood, is why in the hell do you limited the number of players that can return from IR? If you want to say no players can, or all players can after missing 8 weeks, then fine, but why limited it to one or two? That's never make any freaking sense to me. It seems they wanted it only used on franchise players... but why? Why should a non-franchise player be at a disadvantage when it comes to injuries?


PS: The NFL 2020 injury rules, which allowed unlimited number of players (although only once per player) and a short IR (where they only had to miss 3 weeks), was absolutely amazing! They should make that full time! I have no idea why they haven't yet... I think they're going back to the old stupid rules.
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