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Smokey
4 years ago
The Covid-19 Pandemic is not (R) or (D). The virus does not distinguish between male or female. It has been proven that it spreads by touch or by airborne moisture droplets that are expelled by people carrying/infected by the virus. Medical recourses are being stressed to their maximum as caregivers are going above and beyond the call of duty. Yes vaccines have arrived and are being distributed, but that process will require many months to accomplish.

We still need to protect ourselves and our families/neighbors from this horrible virus. Is it really so much to ask that mask be worn in public and risk is lowered lowered with (6 ft.) social distancing. The vaccines are our light at the end of the tunnel, but they do not magically make gathering in groups safe once more.

Right now a new, more contagious strain, has arrived around the world. It is no worse or better than the strain we've been fighting, however it is a more aggressive spreader. Use common sense and protect yourself and others. No one likes the temporary measures being taken to protect us, and too many are suffering as a result. Let's not allow political affiliations to affect keeping ourselves safe.
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all_about_da_packers
4 years ago

The Covid-19 Pandemic is not (R) or (D). The virus does not distinguish between male or female. It has been proven that it spreads by touch or by airborne moisture droplets that are expelled by people carrying/infected by the virus. Medical recourses are being stressed to their maximum as caregivers are going above and beyond the call of duty. Yes vaccines have arrived and are being distributed, but that process will require many months to accomplish.

We still need to protect ourselves and our families/neighbors from this horrible virus. Is it really so much to ask that mask be worn in public and risk is lowered lowered with (6 ft.) social distancing. The vaccines are our light at the end of the tunnel, but they do not magically make gathering in groups safe once more.

Right now a new, more contagious strain, has arrived around the world. It is no worse or better than the strain we've been fighting, however it is a more aggressive spreader. Use common sense and protect yourself and others. No one likes the temporary measures being taken to protect us, and too many are suffering as a result. Let's not allow political affiliations to affect keeping ourselves safe.

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



Let me preface this by saying I don't agree with the views of KRK (and, frankly, have no time to call out his worse than 'bad' legal takes, less than basic understanding of racism (and the irony of a white man expounding on the topic), and not-so-subtle calls for violence).

That said, his post actually raises a valid point and I don't see how your post disproves it. If studies are suggesting that asymptomatic transmission occurs far less than originally feared, it becomes fair to question why exactly masks, social distancing and aggressive lockdowns are necessary - especially when millions of Americans are facing financial ruin.

Add that to evidence that COVID-19 transmission is far less likely to occur outdoors, then it is important to ask if aggressive strategies are necessary because they possibly don't help reducing the risk of transmission.

The issue isn't that the virus indiscriminately targets people. It's that the initial understanding transmission of COV-SARS-2 strain appears to have been wrong, and this requires a recalibration of how exactly to prevent its transmission so that the economic devastation isn't occuring.

And this isn't a politically driven viewpoint; as a racial minority I know of many people that live paycheck-to-paycheck and/or support extended family members (often abroad) - the financial downturn is literally horrific domestically and abroad (particularly given America is an economic driver in ways many people may not be able to understand if they aren't a minority or don't have overseas relatives relying on a breadwinner in America). The financial impact of aggressive lockdowns needs to be questioned if scientific studies (both peer-reviewed and with an empirical basis) are suggesting such aggressiveness may not result in any meaningful reduction of the risk of transmission.

To be clear, this is not to diminish the surges that are occurring or the huge strain on medical professionals and hospital workers; the emphasis should be on reviewing how to prevent or manage such outbreaks and recrafting a strategy to limit transmission in light of emerging evidence that risk of transmission outdoors or among asymptomatic carriers of the COV-SARS-2 strain is much lower than originally thought/feared. At the end of the day, a "better safe than sorry" strategy becomes problematic when "safe" = financial ruin and no statistically significant impact on reducing virus transmission.
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Cheesey
4 years ago
Yes, there is racism.
And just as many minority people that are racists. Why does that seem to be ignored all the time?
I remember when I was younger, seeing black people wearing “proud to be black” and “black power” T-shirts. Yet if I had worn a “proud to be white” or “white power” shirt, I would have immediately been labeled a racist and KKK member.

If it’s wrong for one it should be wrong for all.
My ancestors never owned slaves, and in fact fought to end slavery.

As long as the “race card” is thrown out constantly, it loses any value.

I’m not proud or ashamed of the color of my skin. I had nothing to do with how I was born. And my Dad worked his ass off to provide for us.
Nothing was handed to him.
He taught me to hold myself responsible for my own actions.
He said to me “if you obey the law, you never have to be looking over your shoulder, worried about getting caught”. If people lived by words like that, the crime rate would disappear.
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all_about_da_packers
4 years ago
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Getting back to topic at hand: KRK's article he posted, while indicating obvious bias in the title (i.e. "Wuhan virus"), does actually do a decent job of summarizing the study results since I've read those studies referenced. Kudos to the person who wrote it, because it doesn't really mislead in summarizing the studies it cites - which is a rarity.
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Cheesey
4 years ago
Why is pointing out where the virus came from bias?
Didn’t we call one flu “the Asian flu?”
I guess you can’t dare to point out where a disease comes from, or how the leaders of said place didn’t immediately warn the world of its dangers.
“Said place” should shoulder the responsibility for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people all over the world. Had they acted responsibly, maybe it could have been stopped from spreading world wide.
Shame on me for pointing that out.
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all_about_da_packers
4 years ago

Shame on me for pointing that out.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Not once did I say that; please don't put words in my mouth. "Wuhan virus" is used by republican, if not Trump-leaning, outlets. Scientific studies use COVID-19, or more commonly, reference the strain causing COVID-19. Neither of the studies referenced in the article labeled it the "Wuhan virus", as that is not the medical or even popular nomenclature when referring to COVID-19. Whether it should be is an entirely different can of worms, and something I don't really have interest in commenting on.

It's obvious the article, if not the website it was pulled from, is designed to appeal to a particular type of political view. Hence my reference of the title indicating bias. I'm not shaming anyone.
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Cheesey
4 years ago
HOME COVID TEST

1. Open a can of beer. Smell it.
2. If you can smell it, drink it.
3. If you can smell and taste it, you don’t have covid.

I did this test a dozen times last night, and all were negative.

This morning I woke up, had a bad headache and am not feeling so good.
I think I’m coming down with something!!! Im really scared!
I better do the test again tonight!!!
🤪😂
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Zero2Cool
4 years ago

Let me preface this by saying I don't agree with the views of KRK (and, frankly, have no time to call out his worse than 'bad' legal takes, less than basic understanding of racism (and the irony of a white man expounding on the topic), and not-so-subtle calls for violence).

That said, his post actually raises a valid point and I don't see how your post disproves it. If studies are suggesting that asymptomatic transmission occurs far less than originally feared, it becomes fair to question why exactly masks, social distancing and aggressive lockdowns are necessary - especially when millions of Americans are facing financial ruin.

Add that to evidence that COVID-19 transmission is far less likely to occur outdoors, then it is important to ask if aggressive strategies are necessary because they possibly don't help reducing the risk of transmission.

The issue isn't that the virus indiscriminately targets people. It's that the initial understanding transmission of COV-SARS-2 strain appears to have been wrong, and this requires a recalibration of how exactly to prevent its transmission so that the economic devastation isn't occuring.

And this isn't a politically driven viewpoint; as a racial minority I know of many people that live paycheck-to-paycheck and/or support extended family members (often abroad) - the financial downturn is literally horrific domestically and abroad (particularly given America is an economic driver in ways many people may not be able to understand if they aren't a minority or don't have overseas relatives relying on a breadwinner in America). The financial impact of aggressive lockdowns needs to be questioned if scientific studies (both peer-reviewed and with an empirical basis) are suggesting such aggressiveness may not result in any meaningful reduction of the risk of transmission.

To be clear, this is not to diminish the surges that are occurring or the huge strain on medical professionals and hospital workers; the emphasis should be on reviewing how to prevent or manage such outbreaks and recrafting a strategy to limit transmission in light of emerging evidence that risk of transmission outdoors or among asymptomatic carriers of the COV-SARS-2 strain is much lower than originally thought/feared. At the end of the day, a "better safe than sorry" strategy becomes problematic when "safe" = financial ruin and no statistically significant impact on reducing virus transmission.

Originally Posted by: all_about_da_packers 


Really damn good post. Really good, thank you.


Not once did I say that; please don't put words in my mouth. "Wuhan virus" is used by republican, if not Trump-leaning, outlets. Scientific studies use COVID-19, or more commonly, reference the strain causing COVID-19. Neither of the studies referenced in the article labeled it the "Wuhan virus", as that is not the medical or even popular nomenclature when referring to COVID-19. Whether it should be is an entirely different can of worms, and something I don't really have interest in commenting on.

It's obvious the article, if not the website it was pulled from, is designed to appeal to a particular type of political view. Hence my reference of the title indicating bias. I'm not shaming anyone.

Originally Posted by: all_about_da_packers 


For me, it's really annoying when people label phrases to a political party. When it comes to such labels, I'm probably the most clueless because I just take it for face value. I don't try to figure out "gosh, is this Democratic or Republican?" and then decide if I should agree/disagree. I know no one on this website would do such things because we all without bias.

You said it's obvious where the article was pulled from. How the hell do you figure that cuz I haven't a clue. What's wrong with calling it Wuhan Virus? Didn't it originate in Wuhan? Does this have some negative connotation that I'm (surprise) clueless on?
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Cheesey
4 years ago
For some people, EVERYTHING has to be about race. I don’t think they realize actually how racist it makes them appear.
The virus came from China. And to acknowledge that is just facing reality. It would be racist to call it the “ch~~k” disease .
THAT would be wrong and racist.
I just hope and pray that we get to put all this disease crap behind us this year.
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Zero2Cool
4 years ago

For some people, EVERYTHING has to be about race. I don’t think they realize actually how racist it makes them appear.
The virus came from China. And to acknowledge that is just facing reality. It would be racist to call it the “ch~~k” disease .
THAT would be wrong and racist.
I just hope and pray that we get to put all this disease crap behind us this year.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Nope. The pandemic is here to stay. In May when people were saying this is the new normal. I balked and said nope. I was wrong. Look at the advertising and everything else. People have adapted to this and are investing in it now. The battle is over. Sanity has been lost.
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Mucky Tundra (16h) : Stinks for Lloyd. Hoping he comes back strong for next year
Zero2Cool (3-Jan) : Packers placed Marshawn Lloyd on reserve non-football illness list
Zero2Cool (3-Jan) : Luke Getsy been helping Packers defense. He's former OC Bears/Raiders and our old QB coach
beast (2-Jan) : Thanks dfosterf, I'm still kicking myself for last week, as I forgot to change to pick Vikings and Lions... after putting in a holding spot.
Zero2Cool (2-Jan) : First alternate: Elgton Jenkins Other alternates: Jordan Love, Kenny Clark, Keisean Nixon, Tucker Kraft, Josh Myers, Jaire Alexander
Zero2Cool (2-Jan) : Pro Bowl still a thing? Guess Packers have three. Jacobs, Gary, McKinney.
dfosterf (2-Jan) : It's a mine field with all the players sitting, etc
dfosterf (2-Jan) : There was quite a bit of "chalk" matchups this year it seemed, but not this week coming up
Zero2Cool (2-Jan) : Or we got better and by we I mean everyone except me
Zero2Cool (2-Jan) : We have about six that by percent would have won nearly any season. I guess 2024 was predictable 🤷
Zero2Cool (2-Jan) : You can check previous seasons. I quick did it and don't think anyone hit 70% before
dfosterf (2-Jan) : Hats off to the Beast
dfosterf (2-Jan) : I'm at 71.76% in pick 'em. 2nd place. Beast is at a flat 75% 9 games ahead. That 75% has got to be unprecedented this late in the season
beast (2-Jan) : I don't care deeply, just want some good entertaining games
Zero2Cool (2-Jan) : BTW, not serious.
Zero2Cool (2-Jan) : You don't care about it either!!!!
Zero2Cool (2-Jan) : NIL and Portal killed college, no one cares about it.
Mucky Tundra (2-Jan) : outside of Texas-Arizona St, it's been a snoozefest
beast (2-Jan) : I expect Georgia will change that tomorrow, but we'll have to wait and see. If they do, then only Big 10 and SEC are left.
beast (2-Jan) : So much for Conference Championship meaning something as 100% (so far) of the conference Champions lost their first playoff game.
Zero2Cool (1-Jan) : Jaire had surgery, season over.
Mucky Tundra (1-Jan) : I guess I need a new sig Pic. Boo
Mucky Tundra (1-Jan) : Eric Dickerson approves of this decision
beast (1-Jan) : Eagles are resting RB Saquon Barkley, so there is no chance he breaks the record despite being just 101 yards from it
Zero2Cool (1-Jan) : Patriots are waiving veteran pass rusher Yannick Ngakoue
beast (1-Jan) : Happy New Year's 🥳🎉
beast (31-Dec) : I want to them chant some songs for Daniel Whelan
beast (31-Dec) : Let's win one! Also, hopefully the Irish will stand with Daniel Whelan
Mucky Tundra (31-Dec) : After London and Brazil, I could go without an overseas game for a while
Zero2Cool (31-Dec) : Packers. Steelers. Ireland. 2025. Reports say.
Zero2Cool (30-Dec) : Matt Lafleur on if Jaire will play again this season. "Yeah I don't know... he's been dealing with swelling."
Mucky Tundra (30-Dec) : After the way they played for most of the game yesterday, I don't see how you can sit anyone for the whole game
Zero2Cool (30-Dec) : I'd say play everyone. Going into playoffs at 7th seed on two game lose streak - yucky
Zero2Cool (30-Dec) : Do the Packers have any best players?
beast (30-Dec) : Play or Rest*
beast (30-Dec) : Should the Packers play or free their best players vs the Bears?
Zero2Cool (30-Dec) : Packers should be 3 - 2 in the Division. Bonkers being swept by both Lions and Vikings. yikes
go.pack.go. (30-Dec) : All crazy stuff…and good point beast
beast (30-Dec) : Packers should be 0-5 in the division, can't say I saw that coming, even 1-4
Zero2Cool (30-Dec) : Sam Darnold 35 TD's ... another one
Zero2Cool (30-Dec) : Baker Mayfield, 39 TD's ... can't say I saw that one
Zero2Cool (30-Dec) : No matter who is playing as 7th, I think we want them to win. Get rid of 2nd seed haha
go.pack.go. (30-Dec) : That would be dhazer who was rooting for Minnesota
beast (30-Dec) : Well, Commanders are currently the 6th seed and Packers the 7th
beast (30-Dec) : Who was it in Chat, that wanted the Vikings to win (because Lions fans upset them) because Packers could not lose the 6th seed?
beast (30-Dec) : If Falcons win, Packers stay as the 6th seed and Falcons lead the NFCS, if they lose, Commanders 6th and Bucs take NFCS lead
beast (30-Dec) : Win or Loss, the NFCS is going down to week 18
Mucky Tundra (30-Dec) : if the Falcons win, how does that affect the overall NFC playoff picture? Does it mean that the NFC South comes down to week 18?
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