NFL Pick'em
dhazer won week 14 by getting 12 picks correct. First place overall is held by beast, for now!


Power Rankings Big Movers
+3 Bears and Titans
-3 Panthers

Not a lot of movement, but look who's number two?!??

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Kansas City Chiefs 0

Green Bay Packers 2

Pittsburgh Steelers -1

New Orleans Saints -1

Seattle Seahawks 2

LA Rams 0

Buffalo Bills -2

Tennessee Titans 3

Indianapolis Colts 1

Miami Dolphins -2

Las Vegas Raiders -2

Cleveland Browns 0

Baltimore Ravens 1

Minnesota Vikings -1

Arizona Cardinals 0

Tampa Bay Buccaneers 0

Houston Texans 0

Washington Football Team 0

San Francisco 49ers 0

LA Chargers 2

Chicago Bears 3

New England Patriots -1

Carolina Panthers -3

Detroit Lions -1

Atlanta Falcons 0

Cincinnati Bengals 0

New York Giants 0

Dallas Cowboys 0

Denver Broncos 0

Philadelphia Eagles 0

Jacksonville Jaguars 0

New York Jets 0

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Power Rankings are overrated...... unless this team figures out how to be even marginally better on defense and special teams, they won't be going to the dance. A very entertaining football team, just probably not a Super Bowl Champion. But shit does happen

People can fan any way they want to but I don't understand the derision thrown at the Packers by their own fans. A Bears fan? Sure but NFC North opponents have to get in line and wait behind loyal Packers fans before they can insult the team.

The point is, NO TEAM is going to win the Super Bowl. Well, except for the one team that gets a few breaks, has a couple of players over perform at the right time. Get a few fortuitous calls by the refs. Get the replay review to go their way. There isn't one team that is going to dominate offense, defense and special teams for every single playoff game. Not one.

The best odds in Vegas are for KC at 9/5. No sane person would say those are great odds if that was their chances of living.

Here are the best 10 teams odds:

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Kansas City Chiefs +180 9/5

Green Bay Packers +650 13/2

New Orleans Saints +700 7/1

Los Angeles Rams +1100 11/1

Buffalo Bills +1200 12/1

Pittsburgh Steelers +1200 12/1

Seattle Seahawks +1400 16/1

Tampa Bay Buccaneers +1400 14/1

Baltimore Ravens +1700 17/1

Indianapolis Colts +2800 28/1[/list]

I did a quick look at the teams. Based on scoring offense and scoring defense we have:

KC 2 & 8
GB 1 & 17
NO 7 & 4
LA 17 & 3
Buffalo 9 & 15
Pitt 12 & 1
Seattle 3 & 18
TB 6 & 11
Balt 8 & 5
Indy 5 & 12

Probably the closest to the "perfect" team is KC and NO. Will Brees be back for the playoffs? If so will be be as effective as he was in week 7? I don't think anyone can say for sure.

A very quick look at the KC and GB teams. You can't have superstars at every single position.

It's been said the key positions are QB, WR, OT, Edge and CB.
QB- Aaron or Mahomes? It's a push. Right now this season Aaron is probably slightly better. Some don't like PFF but it's a starting point. Aaron 94.9. Patrick 93.0
WR- Adams or Tyreek Hill? PFF says 92.1 vs 84.0 Hill had one huge game. If someone is going to disappear in any one given game, it may be him not Adams.
OT- Bak or Eric Fisher? 91.7 vs 79.4
Edge- Z Smith vs Chris Jones 84.5 vs 90.1 Z has been coming on in recent weeks so this might be closer in the post season. But then maybe Jones will step it up too.
CB Alexander vs Charvarious Ward 84.5 vs 65.7. Even though Alexander has not been quite as elite the last few weeks, he's still one of the top 5 this season.

Broaden it out- do you want the Packers OL or KC? What about RB group? Do you like the KC DL better than Z, Kenny, Keke and the others? I like the CB group GB has is better than KC's and the safeties have been very solid the last 3-4 weeks.
KC has a better TE. They might have better LB Willie Gay is a 58.3, Anthony Hitchens 53.4 and Damien Wilson a 52.4 so they are not world beaters by any stretch of the imagination.

Every team has weakness. Packer fans are more familiar with their weaknesses.

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that's why I commented about their defense and special teams. According to your stats, Packers are one brick from the bottom on defense. Hopefully Pettine has it figured out

The point was every single team has issues. None are exempt. And yet as terrible and putrid as the GB defense is, man for man, it still is better than the KC defense. Go figure.

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I’m just hoping that I get to see “my” team win another Super Bowl before I die.
So when they get SO close, as they did last year, I get frustrated when they fall short. And again, they are so close to the prize.
Like was said, only ONE team gets to celebrate at the end of the season. I hope it’s OUR team!

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Chiefs defense is better than the Packers by several meaningful statistics. That doesn't mean they won't get steamrolled in the playoffs though.

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Get to the playoffs, get hot. Stay healthy. #nottojinx

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Yep. The 2011 Giants come to mind. They were statistically awful on defense, but got hot at the right time and shocked the world.

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NFC has a chance because they just have to win the last game, but generally speaking, I feel the AFC clearly looks better this year....

And AFC has won 5 of the last 6, only the Eagles could get it down from the NFC.

And this same offensive scheme has been NFC Championships, in 3 of the last 4 years and gone 0-3 in the Super Bowl. (And really this offense scheme has been in 4 of the last 5 Super Bowls, as Peyton Manning won a Superbowl with it his last year... but they were lead by a Super Defense).


So Packers have to improve on defense.... that being said... the Lions game they seemed to make a ton of tweaks. Which might of just been adjustment for the Lions, or could be every week adjustments.

Such as
Early downs they clearly played run first and said screw the pass rush, which is extremely unlike a normal Pettie defense, as he normally believes in attacking he pass first, worry about the run second. But clearly focusing on one or the other, seemed to be better than read the play and reacting, but it also threw the Lions OL off, when they were expecting one thing and got the other.

ILB Barns was getting coverage snap roles ahead of Kirksey... that's both a good and bad sign, as Kirksey wasn't getting it done, but they trust an UDFA rookie over all their draft picks... kinda scary, but Barnes has been shocking getting the job done better than a lot of others and getting on the field more other young draft picks and even than his highschool teammate and 1st round draft pick QB Love. Also, Martin plays out of control, but if smartens up and keeps playing aggressive, but stops over running the ball carriers he could help stop the run.


As for the Chiefs, they almost beat us without their starting QB, star DT, starting DE, starting OT, starting OG.

Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes will absolutely kill this defense, as hey just kept throwing quick passes to ask King to be quick... and keep up with a quick WR.

Packers seriously need to upgrade DT and CB.

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here is a tidbit to ponder, Remember the last SB the Packers won? Remember their record at the end of the regular season? For those that don't, it was 10-6, the Packers were a #6 seed going in to the playoffs. They were the only #6 seed favored to win the SB, on SB Sunday

The 2010 Packers were also never more than 7 points behind in any game that season. They also had the top ranked opponent team passer rating, which they are 22nd this season.

BTW, so much talk of of 2010, here's what my rankings would have looked like. 🤷‍♂️

1. New England Patriots
2. Green Bay Packers
3. Pittsburgh Steelers
4. LA Chargers
5. Baltimore Ravens
6. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
7. Atlanta Falcons
8. Kansas City Chiefs
9. Philadelphia Eagles
10. New Orleans Saints
11. Chicago Bears
12. New York Giants
13. New York Jets
14. Indianapolis Colts
15. LA Rams
16. Dallas Cowboys
17. Tennessee Titans
18. Las Vegas Raiders
19. Cincinnati Bengals
20. Detroit Lions
21. Miami Dolphins
22. Houston Texans
23. Denver Broncos
24. San Francisco 49ers
25. Jacksonville Jaguars
26. Washington Football Team
27. Cleveland Browns
28. Seattle Seahawks
29. Minnesota Vikings
30. Buffalo Bills
31. Arizona Cardinals
32. Carolina Panthers

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well . so much for being ranked #2. Good luck making the top 5