Zero2Cool
4 years ago
NFL Pick'em
dhazer won week 14 by getting 12 picks correct. First place overall is held by beast, for now!


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Not a lot of movement, but look who's number two?!??

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    Zero2Cool
    4 years ago
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    4 years ago
    Power Rankings are overrated...... unless this team figures out how to be even marginally better on defense and special teams, they won't be going to the dance. A very entertaining football team, just probably not a Super Bowl Champion. But shit does happen
    wpr
    • wpr
    • Preferred Member
    4 years ago
    People can fan any way they want to but I don't understand the derision thrown at the Packers by their own fans. A Bears fan? Sure but NFC North opponents have to get in line and wait behind loyal Packers fans before they can insult the team.

    The point is, NO TEAM is going to win the Super Bowl. Well, except for the one team that gets a few breaks, has a couple of players over perform at the right time. Get a few fortuitous calls by the refs. Get the replay review to go their way. There isn't one team that is going to dominate offense, defense and special teams for every single playoff game. Not one.

    The best odds in Vegas are for KC at 9/5. No sane person would say those are great odds if that was their chances of living.

    Here are the best 10 teams odds:

    [list]
  • Kansas City Chiefs +180 9/5
  • Green Bay Packers +650 13/2
  • New Orleans Saints +700 7/1
  • Los Angeles Rams +1100 11/1
  • Buffalo Bills +1200 12/1
  • Pittsburgh Steelers +1200 12/1
  • Seattle Seahawks +1400 16/1
  • Tampa Bay Buccaneers +1400 14/1
  • Baltimore Ravens +1700 17/1
  • Indianapolis Colts +2800 28/1[/list]

  • I did a quick look at the teams. Based on scoring offense and scoring defense we have:

    KC 2 & 8
    GB 1 & 17
    NO 7 & 4
    LA 17 & 3
    Buffalo 9 & 15
    Pitt 12 & 1
    Seattle 3 & 18
    TB 6 & 11
    Balt 8 & 5
    Indy 5 & 12

    Probably the closest to the "perfect" team is KC and NO. Will Brees be back for the playoffs? If so will be be as effective as he was in week 7? I don't think anyone can say for sure.

    A very quick look at the KC and GB teams. You can't have superstars at every single position.

    It's been said the key positions are QB, WR, OT, Edge and CB.
    QB- Aaron or Mahomes? It's a push. Right now this season Aaron is probably slightly better. Some don't like PFF but it's a starting point. Aaron 94.9. Patrick 93.0
    WR- Adams or Tyreek Hill? PFF says 92.1 vs 84.0 Hill had one huge game. If someone is going to disappear in any one given game, it may be him not Adams.
    OT- Bak or Eric Fisher? 91.7 vs 79.4
    Edge- Z Smith vs Chris Jones 84.5 vs 90.1 Z has been coming on in recent weeks so this might be closer in the post season. But then maybe Jones will step it up too.
    CB Alexander vs Charvarious Ward 84.5 vs 65.7. Even though Alexander has not been quite as elite the last few weeks, he's still one of the top 5 this season.

    Broaden it out- do you want the Packers OL or KC? What about RB group? Do you like the KC DL better than Z, Kenny, Keke and the others? I like the CB group GB has is better than KC's and the safeties have been very solid the last 3-4 weeks.
    KC has a better TE. They might have better LB Willie Gay is a 58.3, Anthony Hitchens 53.4 and Damien Wilson a 52.4 so they are not world beaters by any stretch of the imagination.

    Every team has weakness. Packer fans are more familiar with their weaknesses.
    4 years ago
    that's why I commented about their defense and special teams. According to your stats, Packers are one brick from the bottom on defense. Hopefully Pettine has it figured out
    wpr
    • wpr
    • Preferred Member
    4 years ago
    The point was every single team has issues. None are exempt. And yet as terrible and putrid as the GB defense is, man for man, it still is better than the KC defense. Go figure.

    Cheesey
    4 years ago
    I’m just hoping that I get to see “my” team win another Super Bowl before I die.
    So when they get SO close, as they did last year, I get frustrated when they fall short. And again, they are so close to the prize.
    Like was said, only ONE team gets to celebrate at the end of the season. I hope it’s OUR team!

    Zero2Cool
    4 years ago
    Chiefs defense is better than the Packers by several meaningful statistics. That doesn't mean they won't get steamrolled in the playoffs though.
    nerdmann
    4 years ago

    Chiefs defense is better than the Packers by several meaningful statistics. That doesn't mean they won't get steamrolled in the playoffs though.

    Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



    Get to the playoffs, get hot. Stay healthy. #nottojinx
    “Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
    Zero2Cool
    4 years ago

    Get to the playoffs, get hot. Stay healthy. #nottojinx

    Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



    Yep. The 2011 Giants come to mind. They were statistically awful on defense, but got hot at the right time and shocked the world.
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    wpr (4h) : 7 days
    Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : sounds like Packers don't get good compensation, Jaire staying
    dfosterf (16-Apr) : Nobody coming up with a keep, but at x amount
    dfosterf (16-Apr) : Trade, cut or keep
    dfosterf (16-Apr) : that from Jaire
    dfosterf (16-Apr) : My guess is the Packers floated the concept of a reworked contract via his agent and agent got a f'
    Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Yes, and that is why I think Rob worded it how he did. Rather than say "agent"
    dfosterf (16-Apr) : Same laws apply. Agent must present such an offer to Jaire. Cannot accept or reject without presenting it
    Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : I'm thinking that is why Rob worded it how he did.
    dfosterf (16-Apr) : The Packers can certainly still make the offer to the agent
    dfosterf (16-Apr) : Laws of agency and definition of fiduciary responsibility
    dfosterf (16-Apr) : Jaire is open to a reduced contract without Jaire's permission
    dfosterf (16-Apr) : The agent would arguably violate the law if he were to tell the Packers
    Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : That someone ... likely the agent.
    Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : So, Jaire has not been offered nor rejected a pay reduction, but someone says he'd decline.
    Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovksy says t was direct communication with someone familiar with Jaire’s line of thinking at that moment.
    Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovsky just replied to me a bit ago. Jaire hasn't said it.
    dfosterf (16-Apr) : Of course, that depends on the definition of "we"
    dfosterf (16-Apr) : We have been told that they haven't because he wouldn't accept it. I submit we don't know that
    dfosterf (16-Apr) : What is the downside in making a calculated reduced offer to Jaire?
    Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers are receiving interest in Jaire Alexander but a trade is not imminent
    Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Jalen Ramsey wants to be traded. He's never happy is he?
    Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : two 1sts in 2022 and two 2nd's in 2023 and 2024
    Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers had fortunate last three drafts.
    dfosterf (15-Apr) : I may have to move
    dfosterf (15-Apr) : My wife just told the ancient Japanese sushi dude not enough rice under his fish
    Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I think a dozen is what I need
    dfosterf (14-Apr) : Go fund me for this purpose just might work. A dozen nurses show up at 1265 to provide mental health assistance.
    dfosterf (14-Apr) : Maybe send a crew of Angels to the Packers draft room on draft day.
    Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I am the Angel that gets visited.
    dfosterf (14-Apr) : Visiting Angels has a pretty good reputation
    Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : what
    Martha Careful (14-Apr) : WINNING IT, not someone else losing it. The best victory though was re-uniting with his wife
    Martha Careful (14-Apr) : The manner in which he won it was just amazing and wonderful. First blowing the lead then getting back, then blowing it. But ultimately
    Zero2Cool (12-Apr) : I'm guessing since the thumb was broken, he wasn't feeling it.
    dfosterf (10-Apr) : Looking for guidance. Not feeling the thumb.
    Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : If they knew about it or not
    Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : I don't recall that he did which is why I asked.
    Zero2Cool (10-Apr) : Guessing they probably knew. Did he have cast or something on?
    Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : Did they know that at the time or was that something the realized afterwards?
    Zero2Cool (9-Apr) : Van Ness played most of season with broken thumb
    wpr (9-Apr) : yay
    Zero2Cool (9-Apr) : Mark Murphy says Steelers likely to protect Packers game. Meaning, no Ireland
    Zero2Cool (8-Apr) : Struggling to figure out what text editor options are needed and which are 'nice to have'
    Mucky Tundra (8-Apr) : *CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP*
    Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : WR who said he'd break Xavier Worthy 40 time...and ran slower than you
    Mucky Tundra (2-Apr) : Who?
    Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Texas’ WR Isaiah Bond is scheduled to visit the Bills, Browns, Chiefs, Falcons, Packers and Titans starting next week.
    Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Spotting ball isn't changing, only measuring distance is, Which wasn't the issue.
    Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : The spotting of the ball IS the issue. Not the chain gang.
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