Zero2Cool
4 years ago
What do you think about Josh Jackson replacing Kevin King? Improvement? Drop-off? Same?
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beast
4 years ago

What do you think about Josh Jackson replacing Kevin King? Improvement? Drop-off? Same?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



We haven't seen enough of Josh Jackson to make a fair assessment with our own eyes.

Based on training camp reports, clear drop off in coverage, as Jackson reportedly got beaten a lot more than the other top 3 CBs. While he did look better than reported against the Texans, the Texans don't have the best OL and the QB was dodging pass rushers quite a bit...

That being said, he's an improvement in the tackling aspects over King, and in theory if Alexander keeps up his great play one could tell a Safety to stay between the middle of the field and Jackson, assuming you believe Alexander can hold up on an island against his man. And more runs would come Alexander way, which he might embrace that... though you also have to be concerned with can his body handle a larger pounding and being asked to cover on an island.

But we need to see more, like when Jackson is covering a decent WR and the QB isn't running for their life... which Vikings might have the WRs to test him.
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KRK
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4 years ago
I am not seeing it. Perhaps its the system, but I just don't think he is quite good enough....clearly not yet.
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4 years ago
As beast said there isn't enough there to be definitive.
According to PFF Jackson has graded out slightly lower than King this year. If it is accurate I would say rthe drop in ability isn't enough to merit King getting a second deal especially if he is injured all the time and/or the second deal gives King a pay bump.
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nerdmann
4 years ago
He's still developing imo.
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Mucky Tundra
4 years ago
He seems to play pretty well as long as everything is in front of him. But the second it gets level/behind him....
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beast
4 years ago
Yeah the Packers need to draft more CBs and considering Gute seems to draft based on positional value, and not many positions have more positional value than CB (and he's just drafted QB)...

So next year's 1st round pick, has a high percentage chance of being a CB, at least if they feel a CB on the board is still worth the draft pick value.

That or LT, if they aren't able to resign Bak.

But yeah,we need two new CBs to start developing at least. Or we're going to be in a position like the Vikings, of having all new experienced CBs all at once... which isn't their only problem, they lost their DL all at once too.

But still, if the Packers DBs aren't fully healthy in the playoffs, they'll probably be burned a ton...

This team is very much relying on the offensive ball control this year.
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Zero2Cool
4 years ago
How does Left Tackle come into this topic about Josh Jackson and Kevin King? My goodness you lacking of focus folks!

I have read that Jackson is a physical freak. If that is true, then maybe he just needs some good coaching? He had a good game against a QB who was getting abused. Let's see how he does tomorrow against another good WR.
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yooperfan
4 years ago
I'm tired of King and all his nagging injuries.
Bye bye.
I don't think that Jackson has what it takes to be a starter!
Zero2Cool
4 years ago
Not sure I liked what I saw from Jackson. I think King might be a better tackler. If you cst cover a guy, ya better be good at tackling him.
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