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4 years ago
PACKERS' PRACTICE SQUAD

Stanford Samuels, CB
Krys Barnes, ILB
Delontae Scott, DL
Reggie Begelton, WR
Tipa Galeai, LB
Darrius Shepherd, WR
Dexter Williams, RB
Willington Previlon, DL
Alex Light, OT
Henry Black, S
Damarea Crockett, RB
Jake Hanson, C
John Lovett, TE
Zack Johnson, G
De'Jon "Scoota" Harris, LB (from Pats)
Robert Foster, WR (from Bills)
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TheKanataThrilla
4 years ago
When can we place guys on IR? I am wondering how the PS will change once Kamal Martin, Kabion Ento and possibly Montravius Adams are all placed on IR.

When it comes to the rules what allows us to protect Patrick Taylor? I missed why, but he is on the reserve/non-injury list. Is this a covid thing or a family issue that we are now allowed to protect the player?
earthquake
4 years ago
I believe players can go on IR at the official start of the season, which is today or tomorrow or sometime very soon. There are a few notable changes to the practice squad rules too.

Firstly, the size has been bumped from 10 to 16 players.

Secondly, 6 of those players can have an unlimited amount of experience. The Packers could, in theory, sign Tramon Williams or Jared Veldheer to the practice squad (in practice, they likely wouldn't sign for practice squad money). The new CBA allows for 2 such players (increasing the PS from 10 to 12), but the Covid-19 specific agreement adds another 4, bringing it up to 16.

Thirdly, each team can protect 4 players on their practice squad per week. There seems to be a weekly Tuesday deadline for these designations, but I'm not sure if it's currently open season for signing players off other team's practice squads. I think this one is new with the CBA as well, and not Covid specific.

Fourthly, teams can call up two players from the practice squad each week, effectively expanding the game-day roster from 46 to 48 players. These players can go back to the practice squad without being subject to waivers as well. Theoretically, there shouldn't be any reason not to dress 2 guys from the PS every week.

Lastly, and this one isn't a practice squad rule but did come with the Covid agreement, each team can put an unlimited amount of players on IR, and bring them back after only 3 weeks. However, they can only do this once per player, a second stint on IR would end their season. This is why it is likely Kamil Martin will go on IR, even though he may only be out a few weeks. Personally, I like this rule, and hope it sticks around in some form in future seasons. If players get hurt, make it easier to replace them without having a wasted roster spot, that seems like it would be better for the game in the grand scheme of things.
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beast
4 years ago


PACKERS' PRACTICE SQUAD

Stanford Samuels, CB
Krys Barnes, ILB
Delontae Scott, DL
Reggie Begelton, WR
Tipa Galeai, LB
Darrius Shepherd, WR
Dexter Williams, RB
Willington Previlon, DL
Alex Light, OT
Henry Black, S
Damarea Crockett, RB
Jake Hanson, C
John Lovett, TE
Zack Johnson, G
De'Jon "Scoota" Harris, LB (from Pats)
Robert Foster, WR (from Bills)

Originally Posted by: wpr 


I think the Packers roster has Delontae Scott's position wrong, he's totally build like a light weight edge rusher whom needs to grow into his body still, but he's not even listed at 250 lbs yet, and all the reports I've seen talking about him in practice say he's been playing at OLB.

Packers.com's practice squad doesn't list the new guys from other teams yet (which is not surprising at all), but they are listing OLB Greg Roberts instead of RB Dexter Williams, which I find interesting.

Really happy to keep some of the guys we were able to keep on the PS.

When can we place guys on IR? I am wondering how the PS will change once Kamal Martin, Kabion Ento and possibly Montravius Adams are all placed on IR.

When it comes to the rules what allows us to protect Patrick Taylor? I missed why, but he is on the reserve/non-injury list. Is this a covid thing or a family issue that we are now allowed to protect the player?

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 


Usually they're able to put players on the IR within 24 to 48 hours of cutdowns. I'm wondering whom they're going to sign to the 53 to replace the guys they IR. Also shouldn't Adams be healthy by now?

As you mentioned, the non-injury list is what allows us to protect them, the NJI is NOT new... but for better understanding think of it as the PUP list, meaning that the player is injured, unable to pass their physical but the one huge difference is that NJI are deemed to be Non-NFL related activities, and therefore the NFL has no extra legal responsibilities for them.

Where with the PUP it is an NFL related activity and teams HAVE to pay their salary and I believe the NFL NORMALLY HAS to (with a few loop holes) HAS to give them an accured year/season of experience, a step closer to the FA market and getting retirement options. Where with NJI, teams don't nessarily have to pay for a players salaries for them being injured outside of the NFL, nor give them that year of experience.

The Packers NJI has OG Simon Stepaniak and RB Patrick Taylor, both of whom were injured in their last year of college football and had surgery over the off-season. So their is NON-NFL related as they weren't yet in the NFL when they were injured. And since they haven't passed their physicals yet, Packers don't have to do anything with them.

Honestly I know less about the NJI than PUP, so I don't know if the rules are exactly the same, but generally articles simplify them to suggest they're quite similar.

So rules with the PUP (and I assume with NJI too), is that they must miss the first six weeks, then their is a 3 week window, in which if they have pass physicals the team can allow them to start practicing-only while keeping them on the NJI.

Once they start practicing (weather that's in week 7 or week 9), they can then practice for 3 weeks (unless team decides to make a decision sooner), but once those 3 weeks are up, the teams has to either out them on the IR and they're done for the season, or find room for them on the 53 man roster, or if they're healthy, teams could release them and try to sneak them to the PS.

I believe players can go on IR at the official start of the season, which is today or tomorrow or sometime very soon. There are a few notable changes to the practice squad rules too.

Originally Posted by: earthquake 

GREAT breakdown! Thank you for that.

Also I read information that came from Twitter (so I don't know if this is accurate or not), that players that are returning from IR must miss at least 3 games, instead of 3 weeks, so it only effects when teams have a bye week and a player is coming back in 3 weeks and isn't going to effect much, but still.

This is also odd, because the NFL usually goes by week's not games, so it might be BS. Then again, the NFL usually out right refuses any creative and helpful ideas such as unlimited returns from IR and short term IR, so this year anything is possible as the No-Fun-League actually allowed people to come up with creative, smart and helpful rules (for a one year use only, currently)


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4 years ago

I think the Packers roster has Delontae Scott's position wrong, he's totally build like a light weight edge rusher whom needs to grow into his body still, but he's not even listed at 250 lbs yet, and all the reports I've seen talking about him in practice say he's been playing at OLB.

Packers.com's practice squad doesn't list the new guys from other teams yet (which is not surprising at all), but they are listing OLB Greg Roberts instead of RB Dexter Williams, which I find interesting.

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No argument from me. I grabbed the list from a website but I don't remember which one. They had collated a bunch of tweets from media sources. So who ever it was that first tweeted Scott is the one who called him a DLman. I think they were talking about a 17th PS player who is presumably going to take Martin's spot once they IR him. I think they were saying Dex Williams but he was already on the list. I was tired and didn't want to take the time to figure it out.
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beast
4 years ago

No argument from me. I grabbed the list from a website but I don't remember which one. They had collated a bunch of tweets from media sources. So who ever it was that first tweeted Scott is the one who called him a DLman. I think they were talking about a 17th PS player who is presumably going to take Martin's spot once they IR him. I think they were saying Dex Williams but he was already on the list. I was tired and didn't want to take the time to figure it out.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



I wasn't complaining about your list.

But Packers.com even list scott as a DL, which he did play out of position 3-4 DE in college but no way in hell he's doing that with his current body style in the NFL plus he struggled at the interior DL stuff and was successful with the edge stuff, so he should be a 3-4 OLB but they don't have him listed that way, even though I think he's practicing at OLB based on some reports.

And ooooh, that could explain why Packers.com doesn't list Dexter, they made a handshake agreement to keep him, but not going to list him until the IR stuff happens.

Though why not do it with the other PS RB? That would make more sense to me... unless they're considering signing Dexter to the 53 once the IR guys go to the IR, then it'd make sense.
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nerdmann
4 years ago
Hope they keep Dex. Could help us next year if we lose Jamaal. Needs to develop pass pro.
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