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4 years ago

Packers guard Lane Taylor is making a strong case to start in Week 1. Starting jobs on the right side of the offensive line are open this summer, but Green Bay Packers guard Lane Taylor is making a strong case for why he should be one of the starters. After missing most of the 2019

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When Wagner was healthy, I believe Turner was in the starting lineup everyday, making the three player battle for two spots, seems like a two player (Taylor/Wagner) battle for the last spot and Turner taking the other. So the coaching staff seem to like Turner.

But as a few articles have pointed out, in pervious years Lane Taylor has seemed to have graded out better than Billy Turner past year, and Turner struggled in pass blocking at RG, that isn't expected to get better by moving to RT (though he'll have some chip block help, but generally going against even more athletic pass rushers).

So it's nice to hear Taylor is stepping it up, and making it a good competition and hopefully improving the OL. Seems like we should be alright at RG, but still questionable at RT.
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4 years ago

When Wagner was healthy, I believe Turner was in the starting lineup everyday, making the three player battle for two spots, seems like a two player (Taylor/Wagner) battle for the last spot and Turner taking the other. So the coaching staff seem to like Turner.

But as a few articles have pointed out, in previous years Lane Taylor has seemed to have graded out better than Billy Turner past year, and Turner struggled in pass blocking at RG, that isn't expected to get better by moving to RT (though he'll have some chip block help, but generally going against even more athletic pass rushers).

So it's nice to hear Taylor is stepping it up, and making it a good competition and hopefully improving the OL. Seems like we should be alright at RG, but still questionable at RT.

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Generally going against more athletic pass rushers? I don't think this holds true, does it? When we had Matthews and Perry, it was Perry who was over the RT and the reason was because he was more powerful.
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earthquake
4 years ago

Generally going against more athletic pass rushers? I don't think this holds true, does it? When we had Matthews and Perry, it was Perry who was over the RT and the reason was because he was more powerful.

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Beast can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he was suggesting that the RT would likely be going up against an OLB (3-4) or DE (4-3), while the RG would be primarily concerned with a DE/NT (3-4) or DT (4-3). So if Turner moves from RG to RT, his relative weakness in pass blocking could be more of an issue.
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Zero2Cool
4 years ago

Beast can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he was suggesting that the RT would likely be going up against an OLB (3-4) or DE (4-3), while the RG would be primarily concerned with a DE/NT (3-4) or DT (4-3). So if Turner moves from RG to RT, his relative weakness in pass blocking could be more of an issue.

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Ahh, that makes more sense.
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4 years ago

Beast can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he was suggesting that the RT would likely be going up against an OLB (3-4) or DE (4-3), while the RG would be primarily concerned with a DE/NT (3-4) or DT (4-3). So if Turner moves from RG to RT, his relative weakness in pass blocking could be more of an issue.

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Beast excels at corrections. 😂
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4 years ago

Beast can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he was suggesting that the RT would likely be going up against an OLB (3-4) or DE (4-3), while the RG would be primarily concerned with a DE/NT (3-4) or DT (4-3). So if Turner moves from RG to RT, his relative weakness in pass blocking could be more of an issue.

Originally Posted by: earthquake 

That's exactly what I meant. Just talking about the OLs right side I'm that post. Thank you, you probably explained it a lot better than I would have.

Beast excels at corrections. 😂

Originally Posted by: wpr 

I'm glad you agree 😏

Though WHEN I OVER do it, I'm usually sorry...


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4 years ago
I hope this signifies depth vs. a lot of mediocrity.

I bet that practicing against the Smiths is extremely helpful for our tackles
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beast
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4 years ago

I hope this signifies depth vs. a lot of mediocrity.

I bet that practicing against the Smiths is extremely helpful for our tackles

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I think it signifies depth at OG... but that depth might be erased with the mediocrity of OT (which is generally considered the more important position).

Listening to practice reports the lower edge rushers are lighting it up and everyone (including me) gets excited... then I realize whom they're practicing against and figure out that MIGHT be why they're lighting it up.


Right now at OT we got Bak, Wagner, Turner, Light and a whole bunch of wishful potential that usually doesn't develop... (though Yosh Nijman has high potential that MIGHT (probably not) develop in 2 to 4 years but he got injured last year and still now medical cleared from it yet)


Bak is Bak, great in pass protection, I'll be interested in seeing if he's improved his run blocking now that he's finally in a second season of a scheme that emphasizes it equally to pass blocking.

Wagner can be pretty good if he stays healthy, he hasn't stayed healthy the last two years and got injured in camp, left arm, no rumors on where he might be back.

Turner struggled with pass blocking at RG, which might only get worse if he plays at RT, though some think he'll be much better run blocking edge rushers than DT and you can try to help him with TE/RB/FB chip blocking as Bak probably won't need it.

Light, last year, struggled very badly against NFL power, he's athletic enough to get in the way of the defender, but was weak enough that the defender then put him in the way of the offense player with the ball. On the bright side, in theory you should be able to improve that power, though it took Bak a little while too, and so far there are no rumors that Light has actually done this.
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4 years ago

I think it signifies depth at OG... but that depth might be erased with the mediocrity of OT (which is generally considered the more important position).

Listening to practice reports the lower edge rushers are lighting it up and everyone (including me) gets excited... then I realize whom they're practicing against and figure out that MIGHT be why they're lighting it up.


Right now at OT we got Bak, Wagner, Turner, Light and a whole bunch of wishful potential that usually doesn't develop... (though Yosh Nijman has high potential that MIGHT (probably not) develop in 2 to 4 years but he got injured last year and still now medical cleared from it yet)


Bak is Bak, great in pass protection, I'll be interested in seeing if he's improved his run blocking now that he's finally in a second season of a scheme that emphasizes it equally to pass blocking.

Wagner can be pretty good if he stays healthy, he hasn't stayed healthy the last two years and got injured in camp, left arm, no rumors on where he might be back.

Turner struggled with pass blocking at RG, which might only get worse if he plays at RT, though some think he'll be much better run blocking edge rushers than DT and you can try to help him with TE/RB/FB chip blocking as Bak probably won't need it.

Light, last year, struggled very badly against NFL power, he's athletic enough to get in the way of the defender, but was weak enough that the defender then put him in the way of the offense player with the ball. On the bright side, in theory you should be able to improve that power, though it took Bak a little while too, and so far there are no rumors that Light has actually done this.

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Wouldn't mind giving Jenkins a look at RT.
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Zero2Cool
4 years ago

Wouldn't mind giving Jenkins a look at RT.

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I wouldn't mind leaving a young OL who's getting better to focus on one position. If he was struggling, then you move him to see if a different position fits him better.
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