Zero2Cool
4 years ago

The good news for the Packers is that Davante Adams has been a force in the red zone. The bad news?

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Adams is something special. I think he's probably underpaid.
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Cheesey
4 years ago

Adams is something special. I think he's probably underpaid.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Shush Zero!!! He might hear you and demand a raise!!!😜
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beast
4 years ago
Adams is great, and all those red zone stats on how Adams is getting a super large percentage of the snaps might all be true outside of the red zone too.

Just looking at WRs targets (so not Graham), Adams got 127 targets, while the three other guys with at least 25 targets (MVS, Allison and Lazard) look like they combined for 165 targets.

Also point out that Rodgers has a long history of targeting one single guy after setting them up in a one on one matchups near the goal line. And that the slot position is a huge play making position by play design in this scheme and while they wanted Adams on the outside to win one on one without the scheme's extra help, no one stepped up, and they had little choice to out Adams in that role, and your best play maker in the play maker role is going to make more plays than others.


Also hurting that stat is that the Packers didn't consistently have a #2 WR, as MVS, Lazard and Allison all had their chances at number 2 ... so Adams despite missing four games, still had more snaps than anyone else, so of course his numbers are going to be extra higher than the others, more chances and he's better.
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Cheesey
4 years ago

Adams is great, and all those red zone stats on how Adams is getting a super large percentage of the snaps might all be true outside of the red zone too.

Just looking at WRs targets (so not Graham), Adams got 127 targets, while the three other guys with at least 25 targets (MVS, Allison and Lazard) look like they combined for 165 targets.

Also point out that Rodgers has a long history of targeting one single guy after setting them up in a one on one matchups near the goal line. And that the slot position is a huge play making position by play design in this scheme and while they wanted Adams on the outside to win one on one without the scheme's extra help, no one stepped up, and they had little choice to out Adams in that role, and your best play maker in the play maker role is going to make more plays than others.


Also hurting that stat is that the Packers didn't consistently have a #2 WR, as MVS, Lazard and Allison all had their chances at number 2 ... so Adams despite missing four games, still had more snaps than anyone else, so of course his numbers are going to be extra higher than the others, more chances and he's better.

Originally Posted by: beast 



And Adams did all that without a real #2. Other teams know that Adams is “the guy” and put more pressure in him.
I think that if a legitimate #2 comes out this year, it will make Adams even better, as it would make the D have to watch the other WR more, taking some pressure off Adams.
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beast
4 years ago

And Adams did all that without a real #2. Other teams know that Adams is “the guy” and put more pressure in him.
I think that if a legitimate #2 comes out this year, it will make Adams even better, as it would make the D have to watch the other WR more, taking some pressure off Adams.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 


Also looking at the positives stretches from MVS and Lazard, if they could have done those stretches over the entire season, I think we fans would be saying we have two #2s already, and that's not counting whatever Funchess might bring.

But they also had stretches where either due to no opportunity, or injuries, or something else, they just disappeared.

So I certainly think the Packers have potential at WR, which I think the NEED for WR is over stated (they need someone to step up, but there are a couple of good options for that), where other positions need someone to step up, and they seem to have one or none potential good options to step up, such as RT, CB/nickel, maybe DT, etc.
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