Nonstopdrivel
4 years ago
That man's legs are simply monstrous. It's hard not to stare as he's barreling down the field. I'm 5'11'', just one inch shorter than Dillon, and the most I've ever weighed was about 210 lbs during my rugby-playing days. At that weight, there were times I could barely walk, much less run, because the chafing was so unbearable. We're talking bleeding sores on my thighs and scrotum. Dillon must have seriously wide hips to accommodate thighs that thick. Not to mention, it must feel like colliding head-on with a Mack truck to try to tackle him.

Yes, Boston used him as a workhorse in college, but the good news is that the Packers won't need him to carry the load in 2020. He'll be able to learn the ropes and play a situational role behind Aaron Jones. That will give Green Bay the opportunity to evaluate what they have in him while still keeping him fresh for 2021 and beyond. The fact that he refuses to go down and gets so many yards after initial contact is encouraging, as is his ability to catch out of the backfield. He'll be a great safety valve for a quarterback willing to look his way in the flat, and he looks like a potent weapon on the screen.

My question is what does this pick mean for the future of Jones in Green Bay?
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4 years ago

One interesting take that was thrown out on Twitter: with Dillon, you can line Jones up all over and not lose the threat of running the ball.

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 


Very very true, you could live up Jones on the edge around or out at WR, trying to get him one on one with a LB.

Though, Jones doesn't have the best pure speed which is normally desired for the edge around (but great quickness to make adjustments on the fly), and after doing the trick a couple of times, teams will just assume Jones is a quick WR and put their quick coverage guy (normally a DB) on him.

My question is what does this pick mean for the future of Jones in Green Bay?

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 


Probably means he's gone and Packers might go for comp picks (again) as they don't have that much cap to resign Clark, Bak, Linsley, others and outside FAs. Of course, they might now all be back.

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4 years ago

Translation: Gutekunst's reasoning might be to use Aaron Jones more as a receiver in order to keep him healthy longer.

It's an interesting thought.
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4 years ago

Very very true, you could live up Jones on the edge around or out at WR, trying to get him one on one with a LB.

Though, Jones doesn't have the best pure speed which is normally desired for the edge around (but great quickness to make adjustments on the fly), and after doing the trick a couple of times, teams will just assume Jones is a quick WR and put their quick coverage guy (normally a DB) on him.

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Ah, that's assuming that Jones lines up wide anytime GB wants to use him as a WR. What about him lining up in the backfield and then motioning outside? What about him lining up wide, going in motion pre-snap and taking a jet sweep/faking a jet sweep? What about him lining up wide only to motion into the backfield?


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Nonstopdrivel
4 years ago
What about using him on a reverse? What about using him on a double reverse? What about using him on a fake reverse?
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4 years ago




We're going to have to start taking this regime at their word. They don't exactly play their cards close to the vest. After so many years of the cadaverous Thompson hiding away from the sun in his coffin, I'm liking this whiff of transparency.
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4 years ago

Vision – He does a nice job between the tackles to process soft spaces and hit the hole hard and with momentum. Visual field provides shallow cuts to redirect to adjacent gaps. Would like to see a bit more patience on outside runs to fall in line or cut back in line behind lead blocks.

Feet/Change of Direction – Wouldn’t consider him sudden but he’s much smoother than his frame would have you think. If he stays on shallow angles he can string together adjustments well. Appreciate his footwork in the backfield to time his release into the mesh and carry pace through the LOS.

Durability – Battled through minor dings as a SOPH but his overall body of work is quite impressive. True bell cow at the CFB level who will be an even better finisher when he’s put into a timeshare to suit his strengths more appropriately. Bruising finisher with toughness.

Balance – Like him best when he’s working down hill. When he’s pressing to reach outside landmarks he loses a lot of his functional balance and ability to cut. Doesn’t showcase ability to collect himself quickly off of hard cuts, allowing pursuit to close in.

Pass Protection – He’s got all the frame, lower body power and functional strength you could possibly ask for. He can be a bit late to slide his feet and give up interior pressure vs. blitzers, however. If he’s collected prior to contact, odds are pretty good he’s going to deliver necessary stick.

Elusiveness – He’s an absolute load to bring down, his size causes conflicts among defenders on how to challenge him. Contact balance is quite strong and he’s surprisingly nimble to collect himself. Short area acceleration and lateral quickness are not hallmarks of his game, however.

Receiving Ability – Pedestrian at best, doesn’t appear to have much in the way of untapped potential here. He’s been used sparingly in the screen game and doesn’t show viable sense of when he’s uncovered in shallow routes. Breaks are lethargic and won’t stress LBs in coverage.

Short Yardage Skill – Love his forward lean and leg drive, if he needs a yard, the odds are pretty good he’s going to get one and a half. Consistently moves the pile and will drag defenders in one on one scenarios. Despite high pads, he’ll drop shoulder and reduce surface area for pending contact.

Football Intelligence – Noticeably less comfortable working outside, his pure running instinct is best between the tackles. Appreciate his feel for bounce lanes on the second level to gouge and produce bigger gains and work to the sideline. That said, passing reps are only modest.

Effort – Brute of a runner who will physically challenge defenders. He uses that to his advantage to pull sleight of hand and break out finesse moves, but definitely leans on his power and toughness to maximize runs. Leg drive in the pile is excellent.

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Best Trait – Short Yardage Skills

Worst Trait – Short Area Agility

Best Film – NC State (2019)

Worst Film – Clemson (2019)

Red Flags – None

Summary – AJ Dillon projects best as a gap/power rusher at the NFL level. Dillon is at his best as a deep set back who can collect momentum working into the POA and carry his burst through the hole. Asking him to slow play, press the line and read/accelerate out of a cut takes away many of his appealing qualities. In a perfect world, Dillon is a short yardage specialist and/or early down back who can churn out tough yards and keep the offense on schedule with the sticks.

Updated: 12/23/2019

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4 years ago

Ah, that's assuming that Jones lines up wide anytime GB wants to use him as a WR. What about him lining up in the backfield and then motioning outside? What about him lining up wide, going in motion pre-snap and taking a jet sweep/faking a jet sweep? What about him lining up wide only to motion into the backfield?

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 

Actually it's not assuming that at all. When ever you out two RBs on the field and one is clearly a full time RB (Dillion) and the other is more versatile lighter/quicker type, you put your cover LB or physical DB on them, wherever they are. So inside vs outside doesn't matter... not one bit.

Weather he motions with him or switches off, depends on if they're in man coverage or zone coverage.

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4 years ago

Actually it's not assuming that at all. When ever you out two RBs on the field and one is clearly a full time RB (Dillion) and the other is more versatile lighter/quicker type, you put your cover LB or physical DB on them, wherever they are. So inside vs outside doesn't matter... not one bit.

Weather he motions with him or switches off, depends on if they're in man coverage or zone coverage.

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But by constantly following Jones around and tipping off what kind of coverage you're in, you've also revealed your hand. GB can just run at the vacated LB spot/get a mismatch with the DBs or just go completely opposite of wherever Jones went and play off the misdirection. By assuming that Jones moving around means he's being thrown to and you can neglect Dillons receiving, you've just left yourself exposed to GB simply throwing to Dillon.
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