Zero2Cool
5 years ago
Do you agree with this?

-- @caplannfl Per an #NFL personnel director to me this morning on reason why WR market has been slow: "When you look at this draft, how much better are the guys on the street versus those guys?" "When you look at this draft, how much better are the guys on the street versus those guys?" Could be one of the most historically talented draft classes EVER.--


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wpr
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5 years ago
Maybe. I hope GB picks up a couple of WR this year.
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Cheesey
5 years ago
We won’t know if that’s true until a couple of years go by.
How many times have college players that “couldn’t miss”, DID miss.
Then you look at a guy like Donald Driver, a 7th round pick, who had an excellent career. Of course he had Favre and Rodgers, two great QBs getting the ball to him.
A great WR might not be great in the NFL without a good QB throwing the ball.
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beast
5 years ago
But with the WR FA being slow, that also means teams might be able to get some very good deals that would normally cost them a lot more in other years.

And that way you could either double up on the position at WR in the draft like the Packers did in FA and the draft last year with OLB, S and G...

Or select a different position all together.
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Cheesey
5 years ago
That true, Beast. It might hold prices down if agents think their guys won’t get signed if they ask for too much with the perceived good WR draft.
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5 years ago
Jalen Reagor is by far my favorite prospect in this draft, minus the people who clearly won't be available at 30. As much as we need an ILB, Reagor is my 1a.

Lot of talent in later rounds though too. Tyler Johnson is a nice player. Cephus of course. Omar Bayless. Joe Reed.
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5 years ago
2021 should be another great year for WRs. At a quick glance I have seen boards have 4 in the top 10. Up to 10 going in the first round. (They won't. Someone at another position who falls will be taken instead.) And a lot of depth again.

CBs will be big next year too.

But that is next year.
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beast
5 years ago

CBs will be big next year too.

But that is next year.

Originally Posted by: wpr 

This year has a better CBs class than people are talking about, it's just being over shaddowed.

But yeah we need another good CB, maybe even two more.


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Zero2Cool
5 years ago

This year has a better CBs class than people are talking about, it's just being over shaddowed.

But yeah we need another good CB, maybe even two more.

Originally Posted by: beast 



I was reading that the CB's class is pretty weak, which is why some WR's were looking better than they are. I can't remember who on Twitter started the talk about it, but others agreed. I haven't a clue myself as I don't watch hardly any college ball aside from Badgers.
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beast
5 years ago

I was reading that the CB's class is pretty weak, which is why some WR's were looking better than they are. I can't remember who on Twitter started the talk about it, but others agreed. I haven't a clue myself as I don't watch hardly any college ball aside from Badgers.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Honestly this is the least I've been able to follow the draft since before 2005, so I could more mistaken about this year draft than normal

And I should have been more specific to what area I was talking about. I like the number of good potential projects of CB that some are projecting might fall to the late 1st to mid 2nd round range. I think that tier of CBs looks talented and a good number of them.

Though some of them are limited to maximuming their potential to certain type of schemes, and the more complete ones are smaller, which is why they are they are being projected higher.

But I feel there are talented guys that are not getting talked about enough by fans and will be selected higher than what I'm currently hearing such as CB Jaylon Johnson, Utah, whom I think very well might be a 1st round selection for some man coverage or 3 quater zone team, unless the medical stuff scares teams off. Or Jeff Gladney, TCU, whom I see as a less talented Jaire Alexander, but he's quite verstile and can play any scheme you ask, but might be best in zone.

Outside of that small projected range I haven't really checked out the CB depth. So they're probably right.


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