Zero2Cool
4 years ago
Do you agree with these five things? I would say Bulaga and Clark go to the bottom ONLY because those deals can be done after the other three.

What says you?

1. Cut Jimmy Graham.
2. Re-sign Bryan Bulaga.
3. Add another receiver
4. Clean up things at linebacker.
5. Lock up Kenny Clark.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28648779/five-2020-offseason-moves-nfc-teams-bill-barnwell-predicts-trades-free-agency-cuts 


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4 years ago
1. Cut Graham
2. Lock up Clark
3. FA to address ILB
4. Figure out center position. Lindsley got his ass handed to him in both SF games.
5. See what is available elsewhere on the OL, if no better options sign Bulaga
6. either through the draft or FA, get another stud IDL
7. appoint KRK assistant GM
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beast
4 years ago
Are people really happy with CB Kevin King as a starter?

Maybe it's just me looking so hard at the scheme, but they played a huge amount of zone coverage, which in theory helped the CBs and ILBers out a ton, and gave them one less chess piece to move around up front, which could of been more aggressive with and help in blitzing, including run blitzing or clogging the line.

I just asked because the DT is getting all the blame, while struggling with getting less help, but King at times struggled and he was getting more help!

And CB is such an important position...Packers need to improve there too, and not many are talking about it.
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dyeah_gb
4 years ago

Are people really happy with CB Kevin King as a starter?

Maybe it's just me looking so hard at the scheme, but they played a huge amount of zone coverage, which in theory helped the CBs and ILBers out a ton, and gave them one less chess piece to move around up front, which could of been more aggressive with and help in blitzing, including run blitzing or clogging the line.

I just asked because the DT is getting all the blame, while struggling with getting less help, but King at times struggled and he was getting more help!

And CB is such an important position...Packers need to improve there too, and not many are talking about it.

Originally Posted by: beast 



I think the loss to SF has alot to do with the priorities on defense. The DL and LBs were so freakishly bad at stopping the run in the NFCC that Kings inconsistent play looks good in comparison. To be honest, it was a just great that he didn't have a season ending injury for a change. Maybe the coaches can help King make the next step this offseasons.
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4 years ago
Beast bemoaned:

Are people really happy with CB Kevin King as a starter?

On an absolute basis, no. On a relative basis, yes.

I am unhappier on defense with:[list][*]ILB 1[*]ILB2[*]IDL1[*]IDL2[/list]On offense, I am unhappier with, in no particular order,[list][*]RG[*]C[*]TE[*]WR[/list]
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Zero2Cool
4 years ago

Are people really happy with CB Kevin King as a starter?

Originally Posted by: beast 



I think he does more good than bad. I can't say the same for WR2 or ILB1/ILB2. Kevin King has had game winning or game assist clinching turn overs.
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4 years ago

Beast bemoaned: On an absolute basis, no. On a relative basis, yes.

I am unhappier on defense with:[list]

  • ILB 1
  • ILB2[*]IDL1[*]IDL2[/list]On offense, I am unhappier with, in no particular order,[list][*]RG[*]C[*]TE[*]WR[/list]

    Originally Posted by: KRK 

  • You're more unhappy with Kenny Clark than Kevin King?
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    4 years ago
    I think he's unhappy with any DL not named Kenny Clark.
    Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?
    beast
    4 years ago

    I think he's unhappy with any DL not named Kenny Clark.

    Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx 



    I can understand that, especially since he's all about old school football and philosophy... and I'm sure he'll never be fully satisfied with the new school schemes and players, especially in the run game positions... and the ILB role as it's changed so much.

    But he listed IDL1, which I thought was Kenny Clark, so I had to ask was Clark included in the worse than King.
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    4 years ago

    You're more unhappy with Kenny Clark than Kevin King?

    Originally Posted by: beast 

    Please see my previous post in thread. Resigning him is my #2 priority.

    PackerTraxx nailed my poorly expressed views quite well

    I think he's unhappy with any DL not named Kenny Clark.j

    We need 3. We have 1
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