uffda udfa
7 years ago
One team has a budding championship defense...it went out and traded high picks to get a QB under the belief they could win without their injured 1st rounder last season. Even after having two former 1st round picks, they went out and signed an experienced backup probably due to lessons learned with losing Bridgewater.

Juxtapose that, if you will, with what we chose to do after living through the nightmare of Seneca and Scott. We traded up for a QB and anointed him the backup simply by draft status. We believed so much in him we felt it fine to have Joe Callahan be the 3rd guy while letting Taysom Hill go.

Why would a team that has nowhere near the defense the Vikings do prioritize their QB less than the Vikings who have a great defense they can rely on? The Vikings apparently learned from their mistakes and have 3 capable QB's. In Green Bay, we have Brett Hundley and Joe Callahan.

Further, how does the Vikings offense continue to produce through a move to a backup QB? That team is 6-2. We're two games back and in a sinkhole.

Honestly, compare the mindset of the Vikings org to the Packers org. Also, compare the results. Vikings set out to build a championship defense. I'd say they're doing a fine job realizing that aim. The Vikings set out to ensure that they didn't fall off if their starting QB got hurt again. It seems they've done quite well protecting themselves against Bradford's knee issues.

Enter, Green Bay... After the Seneca and Scott debacle we're watching Brett Hundley destroy this offense. It's really fallen off a cliff. Our GM has tried building a championship defense dumping as much or more resources into ours for negligible results.

So, in Minnesota they've protected themselves at the quarterback position and built a championship level D. In Green Bay, we're in shambles at the quarterback position and field a defensive unit that allowed the Lions to not even punt last night for their first time since 1971.

You don't think things are swinging in the NFC North? Aaron Rodgers is and has been the only thing to hang our hat on. With competent management our backup QB situation wouldn't be so dire, nor would our defense be one of the jokes of the NFL.

It's readily apparent one management approach was to hide behind Aaron Rodgers hoping nobody would notice for years and years, while another was to do smart things to build toward something year after year. One approach is clearly working, while one approach is clearly failing. One of these things is not like the other...

Nothing needs to change because we have 12? EVERYTHING needs to change because we have 12. Tick tock, tick tock...
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PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago
LOL you talk about how SB is what matters and you bring up MN Mentality.


Now that if funny.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
uffda udfa
7 years ago

LOL you talk about how SB is what matters and you bring up MN Mentality.


Now that if funny.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



For now it is...but they are building sensibly to achieve that goal. What are we building in Green Bay? How's our D look after years of trying to make it even competent? How's the Vikings backup QB situation look vs. ours. You can stay stuck in the past all you want. It's today. Detroit beat us for the 2nd time in 26 years in Wisconsin last night. Things change. I hate the Vikings as much as one can in the sporting sense and hope they never win one...but, what they're doing right now to get there is more effective than what we're doing right now. We just happen to have the prodigious advantage of Aaron Rodgers leveling the organizations. With him out of the way, it's pretty obvious who has the fuller cupboard. They lost Bridgewater and Bradford in successive years and are 6-2. Why? Oh, they pick higher than we do? Is that it? That team couldn't find a QB with higher picks than we used on Rodgers. That team has hit on more players and or have better coaching. A lot to envy with the purple while things are falling apart in Green Bay.


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PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago
What they are doing, sucking more over the past 10+ years so they can pick lower in the draft. They can build defenses, they had the good defense and the best RB in the league for how long and netted them ZERO SB's. The closest they have come is when they got Brett. They have been trying to buy a QB to get them over the hump and they fail time after time. Their best option might be keeping their defense in tact and buying Hundley from us next year.

It is easy to build a good defense when you can afford to pay more because you don't have a top tier QB to pay and now not paying a top RB either.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
beast
7 years ago

LOL you talk about how SB is what matters and you bring up MN Mentality.


Now that if funny.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 


It would be funny, if the message wasn't so horrible...

Packers vs. Browns.
Packers vs. Vikings
Packers vs. Bengals

Making many, many posts, same thing over and over and over, that people need to be more like him.
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beast
7 years ago

What they are doing, sucking more over the past 10+ years so they can pick lower in the draft. They can build defenses, they had the good defense and the best RB in the league for how long and netted them ZERO SB's. The closest they have come is when they got Brett. They have been trying to buy a QB to get them over the hump and they fail time after time. Their best option might be keeping their defense in tact and buying Hundley from us next year.

It is easy to build a good defense when you can afford to pay more because you don't have a top tier QB to pay and now not paying a top RB either.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 

Exactly... if he was with the Vikings he'd be bitching that they should be more like the Packers the last 10 years... since he's with the Packers he's bitching that they should be more like other teams.

He just bitches about not being more successful no matter what happening...

Hard to take anyone like that serious.
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uffda udfa
7 years ago
It's not the same thing again and again. The Bengals situation compared to ours and the Vikings situation compared to ours is vastly different. Yes, absolutely, 100% we SHOULD be doing things like those orgs did in the scenarios laid out. We chose different paths in both cases and both times it's led to our detriment.

Speak to the topic not the topic starter. You seem to think you have immunity to the nature of the topic by hollering about me. It's really really childish.

Both topics are excellent topics incredibly worthy of discussion. The fact that you don't think so is highly curious.

Debate the topic. You have it in you.

The issue isn't about whether the purple have a SuperBowl in their past. It's about what they're doing RIGHT NOW. Either they did, or they didn't handle the backup QB situation better than us. Pretty easy answer...The Vikings DID handle the situation far better than the Packers.

As to Cincy, it's pretty clear that they had a team of offensive players that wanted to win and knew they were being held back and wouldn't stand for it leading to CHANGE and CHANGE FOR THE BETTER. Do we do such things in Green Bay? Does a single player open his mouth about these issues? Nope...and look what we're stuck with Dom Capers and TERRIBLE defense. That's fine? It's not an issue.

What's your solution? I've detailed how different teams have handled things in comparison. It's not unfair nor is it slanted. It's relevant.
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