Zero2Cool
5 years ago
The groupings were of what I've read here, Twitter, Facebook, and hear on the radio. Let's be clear on that. Having it bubble into the chat made it impossible to enjoy the game. I tried to fill it out, but it was just relentless and I let it effect me -- which is why I bolted.

Sorry we upset you Zero. But Rodgers was off yesterday, and he absolutely admitted it, and the stats agree. I didn't think it was a big deal that a WR dropped a tough pass that was too off target, just stating that it happened in my opinion.

Originally Posted by: beast 



He absolutely was off yesterday. The reason others are noticing it is because he threw the ball 55 times. Normally he's around low to mid 30's on pass attempts. The pass that 83 dropped was not tough to catch. It was tough to catch AND run with, but absolutely not a tough catch to make. The ball hit him square in the hands.

I can't find the play, but found this one from the first matchup. You'll notice 83 has to check up to catch the ball. If he is lead, this is a huge TD. This is a play that kind of shows what I mean when I say he's off. You got a guy with that speed, get some air under it and let your boy chase that shit down!
https://www.packers.com/video/can-t-miss-play-qb-rodgers-throws-deep-to-wr-valdes-scantling-for-46-yard-gain 
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beast
5 years ago
And we as fans will disagree on things as times... and hopefully both sides can then drop it and move on.

Though it's kinda tough when one keeps bring it up, over and over and over again, especially when the other side has already tried to move on from the debate... I think that was the problem yesterday, was fans weren't willing to move on from the debate at the same time.
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gbguy20
5 years ago


The Lions were trying to stop the short stuff and daring them to throw long, and they attempted it then, where it was the correct call to try some bombs. As already mentioned, Graham dropped a ball, Adams got flagged for blocking early, and Rodgers missed one throw... one person was non-stop pissing on about the Adams flag and the fact that I said Rodgers missed one throw...

I don't believe my claim that Rodgers missing one throw was a big deal..

Originally Posted by: beast 



Currently only have time to respond to this part....but if you think Rodgers only missed on one throw you missed the last 3.5 quarters of the game.
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beast
5 years ago

Currently only have time to respond to this part....but if you think Rodgers only missed on one throw you missed the last 3.5 quarters of the game.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 

Seriously? ... Com'on man... if you think someone is that off, don't you think there might be some context that you're not getting? The context of that post, is about the point before we pissed Zero2Cool off so much that he left...

After all, I was the Antagonist (as I said here)

As the "The Rodgers Antagonist" that I'm being called...

Originally Posted by: beast 


And here is how the Antagonist was playfully defined below

The Rodgers Antagonists - these fans feel Rodgers is to blame for everything, even their late rent payment. I speculate some of these fans began following the Packers in the late 80's or early 90's if not later and don't really know what shitty quarterbacks look like sporting Green and Gold.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


So if I'm blaming Rodgers for everything, do you really think I only saw one missed pass this last game? Com'on Man

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gbguy20
5 years ago

Seriously? ... Com'on man... if you think someone is that off, don't you think there might be some contest that you're not getting? The contest of that post, is about the point before we pissed Zero2Cool off so much that he left...

After all, I was the Antagonist (as I said here)

And here is how the Antagonist was playfully defined below

So if I'm blaming Rodgers for everything, do you really think I only saw one missed pass this last game? Com'on Man

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Great point. Excuse my earlier post.

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Cheesey
5 years ago
The way I stated it was: this season, Rodgers accuracy has been off.
Deep throws have (more often then in past seasons) been noticeably off.
Is it just Rodgers, or is it the current set of WRs?
Maybe a combination of both.
They have ONE off week to figure it out and fix it, or it will be a wasted opportunity to win a championship.
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beast
5 years ago

The way I stated it was: this season, Rodgers accuracy has been off.
Deep throws have (more often then in past seasons) been noticeably off.
Is it just Rodgers, or is it the current set of WRs?
Maybe a combination of both.
They have ONE off week to figure it out and fix it, or it will be a wasted opportunity to win a championship.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



I don't think it's the WRs... though he does seem to be able to hit Adams well so it might be? ... though I think it's more a calmness thing, where he's calmer throwing to Adams, and that's more an earlier read... where throwing to the RB seems to be a later read for example.

Also I've wondered if learning and getting fully comfortable under pressure ... within a new scheme might be having some effect on Rodgers. Where he knew every single in and out of the old system... including where everyone would be, when things went wrong. Now learning the new system, and he might know it when things go right, but when things go wrong, could be a learning in progress still?

That or his arm/footwork is just a bit off for some reason.
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Nonstopdrivel
5 years ago
I swear, this is starting to remind me more and more of the end of the Favre era with every passing week. How vividly I remember that as Favre increasingly became a liability to the team, there was a contingent of fans who became increasingly shrill and strident in their insistence on blaming everyone but Favre for the team's problems—to the point that some of them (not to name names cough4PackGirlcough) effectively swore off the team after they finally moved on from Favre. It was embarrassing.

Those of you who persist in blaming this team's offensive inconsistency on miscommunication, think about what you're really saying. You're practically accusing an entire professional receiving corps of being such a bunch of retards that they can't master the terminology in LaFleur's playbook even after an entire season in his system. Either that, or you're saying Aaron Rodgers is such a piss-poor communicator that he still can't figure out how to successfully relay the playcalls this deep into the season. Yet week after week we see other teams accomplishing more with less.

Occam's Razor, people. Which is more probable: that the entire complement of Green Bay skill players consists of inept, low-IQ castoffs—or that one formerly other-worldly player is struggling, physically and mentally, to adjust to the decline of his skills and abilities as he ages in the wake of a series of season-ending injuries? For far too many years, Rodgers was forced to be The Man in Green Bay, and he developed a lot of bad habits into which we see him frequently relapse when the chips are down.

Moreover, assuming there really is an ongoing problem with miscommunication, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if a lot of those apparent communication miscues are caused by Rodgers' incessant last-second audibles and adjustments to disguised coverages. Maybe if he played a more up-tempo style and forced defenses to show their hands earlier, he wouldn't have to change so many plays at the line of scrimmage and his receivers would know where they were supposed to be. If rookie and third-string quarterbacks on other teams can figure out how to get on the same page as receivers they've hardly worked with, there's no reason to keep giving a supposedly elite quarterback like Aaron Rodgers a pass for his ongoing inability to adapt to changing realities.

In any case, it's obvious to me that this year LaFleur made the decision to compromise with Rodgers and run a hybrid system that featured a framework of his scheme combined with elements of Rodgers' preferred style. It's equally obvious which set of plays was more consistently successful. I'm hoping the LaFleur will put his foot down next year and run a purer version of his scheme, Rodgers' feelings on the matter be damned. Rodgers can get with the program or he can ride the pine for all I care. He claims he wants to play into his forties. Well, then he needs to start playing like a quarterback who wants to play into his forties, and the first step is to stop taking so many hits. Say what you want about Tom Brady, there's a reason he's lasted so long in this league.
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go.pack.go.
5 years ago

Randall Cobb? You have to be shitting me. The guy who only 3 players (includes WR,TE, HB) had more drops this season? Yeah, you're right. We should have inked him to a one year $5 million contract. Cobb was the 4th most targeted player on his team.
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I just find it hard to believe that having Cobb this year wouldn’t have helped (due to 3 of our 5 receivers sucking). If nothing else, Cobb knew what to do when the play was breaking down. Just another trusted receiver that Rodgers could’ve had.
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