Zero2Cool
5 years ago

Aaron Rodgers said so after Week 1, but is it true? Judging solely by the Packers ’ Week 1 win over the Bears , you’d be forgiven for thinking the NFC North would return to its “black and blue division” roots in 2019. Both sporting what appeared to be dominating defenses, the Packers and Bears looked primed for a season-long slugfest, shutting down opposing offenses with their voracious defenders.

Instead, the teams have gone in different directions on that side of the ball. Or rather, the Bears have largely maintained their reputation as a very good defense while the Packers have steadily declined over the years, feasting only on the weakest of opposing quarterbacks.

Those two season-long storylines could come to a head this weekend in Green Bay. The Packers will face another relatively weak quarterback in Mitchell Trubisky , though he has quite well, recently. Meanwhile, the Bears’ defense will have a chance to avenge its Week 1 performance, an overall good effort that came up just short. With plenty on the line for both teams, defense could still end up playing a huge role for both the Packers and Bears.


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I'm skeptical on this. I think our offense fails to do our defense any favors. The scheme is designed to bend, not break. The defense is 6th in red zone percentage and 3rd on goal to go percentage. The eye test says our defense leaves the middle of the damn field WIDE open!
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5 years ago
Early in the season, we seemed to be getting a lot more 3 and outs. When we do, the defense rests. Yes, the offense has been inconsistent which doesn't help, but many times, I see 10 yard cushions on 3rd and 5's and they take the opponent takes the first down. The drive continues, and we get tired.

Again, IIRC, we were much more aggressive in the secondary earlier in the season. Perhaps injuries to our secondary (King and Brown) factor in.

Nevertheless, I think we are vastly improved on defense over last year and especially over 2 years ago.
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Oops, I thought the thread was about defense....silly me.
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5 years ago

Oops, I thought the thread was about defense....silly me.

Originally Posted by: KRK 



And I thought conversations naturally evolve...silly me.
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TheKanataThrilla
5 years ago
When such a large percentage of the salary cap is spent on offense it is really hard to be critical of the defense. My big concern has been as Zero stated in his first post that the middle of the field has been consistently wide open. This has been going on for many years. Perhaps as far back as when Nick Collins got hurt. I think Raven Greene made us better in the middle, but I don't think we can be a serious Super Bowl contender until we address this issue. I would hope to be wrong, but there are too many teams with big name TEs who will exploit us in the middle of the field these playoffs.
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5 years ago

Early in the season, we seemed to be getting a lot more 3 and outs. When we do, the defense rests. Yes, the offense has been inconsistent which doesn't help, but many times, I see 10 yard cushions on 3rd and 5's and they take the opponent takes the first down. The drive continues, and we get tired.

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http://www.nfl.com/teams/greenbaypackers/statistics?team=GB 

Time of Possession: 31:10

For whatever reason (and to be fair, I do it too) people seem to lock in to the Packers' problems without realizing that 90% of these problems occur with other teams too.
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