beast
5 years ago

beast- Don't look backwards over the past 100 years. There is no need to change today or in the next 5 years. Look forward to new owners. New circumstances. They may need to change in 20 or 30 years.

Yeah perhaps. But they own the team. I don't care if Jerry Jones retires 20 jerseys. It don't matter to me. If it panders to their fans and devalues the honor what do I care?

Originally Posted by: wpr 

I agree in the future things might change... but why ignore the current present circumstances? And why ignore the historical circumstances? The future holds endless possibilities... but that's not where presents is at... hell NFL management is still in the 1980s management style, early 1990s at best of reaction management style.

I'm still hoping they get to the early 2000 management styles, must less the 2030 management styles... they'll probably be getting there 20 to 30 years late as well!

You might not care, but I do. I prefer the NFL to not seem like a joke, like the pro-bowl has become. Like the NFL voting for a FB starter instead of a 3rd WR/TE starter... for them to be so completely and totally behind the times in the 4-3 and 3-4 defense analysis, where coaches have been telling us for years not that the defenses are really past those labels, as most defense are nickel based defenses now, with two DL and two edge rusher, and two off ball LBers and 5 DBs.

The NFL management is a complete joke, and now I'm suppose to ignore that reality and think they can pull their butts outta their asses and be creative and smart in 20 to 30 years, because it'll be new circumstances... where the teams aren't owned mostly by pompous conservative control freak rich people? That basically own and control whom gets let into their country clubs? Remember, the other owners have to vote them in still... they'll get to vote who comes in, not us.


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5 years ago

I agree in the future things might change... but why ignore the current present circumstances? And why ignore the historical circumstances? The future holds endless possibilities... but that's not where presents is at... hell NFL management is still in the 1980s management style, early 1990s at best of reaction management style.

I'm still hoping they get to the early 2000 management styles, must less the 2030 management styles... they'll probably be getting there 20 to 30 years late as well!

You might not care, but I do. I prefer the NFL to not seem like a joke, like the pro-bowl has become. Like the NFL voting for a FB starter instead of a 3rd WR/TE starter... for them to be so completely and totally behind the times in the 4-3 and 3-4 defense analysis, where coaches have been telling us for years not that the defenses are really past those labels, as most defense are nickel based defenses now, with two DL and two edge rusher, and two off ball LBers and 5 DBs.

The NFL management is a complete joke, and now I'm suppose to ignore that reality and think they can pull their butts outta their asses and be creative and smart in 20 to 30 years, because it'll be new circumstances... where the teams aren't owned mostly by pompous conservative control freak rich people? That basically own and control whom gets let into their country clubs? Remember, the other owners have to vote them in still... they'll get to vote who comes in, not us.

Originally Posted by: beast 



I can't change it so I don't let it bother me. Also I am older than you so I expect to be dead in 20 years. Certainly 30 years. The Boomer gen will be gone and the Millennials will get their way on everything. Management styles will have changed. I can't say it will be for the better but they will change.

The owners will vote the new breed in because it will be their own kind.

More specifically jersey numbers will increase because the need will be there to do so. They won't do it now because they don't need it.
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