Zero2Cool
3 years ago

I get asked this question more than any other. The majority of people believe switching positions is easy because they’ve never done it before. Moving from side to side is easy for some, but most often, it takes a while to adjust. In the immortal words of Josh Sitton, switching from one side to the other is “like wiping your ass with the other hand.”

Everything is awkward and different. I had to switch from the right side to the left side (LG) a couple times in my career. It always went bad. ALWAYS. I was never comfortable at left guard. I’d always punch like I was at right tackle and when I was being bull-rushed, I’d switch my stagger to anchor the bull like a right guard, thus allowing myself to get beat inside.

According to social media, switching from tackle to guard is the “easy” solution for a tackle who’s struggling. Not so fast my friend. If an offensive tackle has good hands, generally has good movement skills but might lack some foot quickness to play tackle, then moving inside could be productive. If an offensive tackle is struggling with his strike and punch location, plus has bad feet, then moving inside is a no-go. Things happen fast at guard. Your hands must be ready for action now. And if you miss with your hands, your base better be good so you’re able to recover.

So in short, moving a struggling OT to OG isn’t easy, and it’s rarely the solution.

Geoff Schwartz wrote:



A little common sense for those who continue to project LT over to RT and vice versa. You are welcome.

I have spoken.
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beast
3 years ago

A little common sense for those who continue to project LT over to RT and vice versa. You are welcome.

I have spoken.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Okay, but we got, I think 6 college LTs and 2 college RTs, someone has to switch over. I'm not saying it's gonna be easy, just that it needs to be done.

I think Bakhtiari and Tom stay at LT, Runyan has already moved to LG. Keep him there unless you want Rhyan to win the starting LG job.

Nijman and Newman played at RT in college. And work Newman at both RG and RT.

Probably need to switch Rhyan to RT, so he can compete at RG and RT.

This leaves us with Van Lanen and Walker, out one on each side.

If they is the case, then only two LTs are going to the right side, Rhyan and either Van Lanen or Walker.
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wpr
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3 years ago
No one should say it's easy to make the switch from one position to another but over the years the Packers have had success getting players to adjust. It can be done. Perhaps not everyone can but some players can do it ans still succeed.
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nerdmann
3 years ago
Bakhtiari once compared it to wiping your ass with the opposite hand.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
PackersNation
3 years ago

Bakhtiari once compared it to wiping your ass with the opposite hand.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I believe it was Josh Sitton that made that comparison, but the point is well taken.

I also agree with WPR, the Packers intentionally draft players that are extremely versatile, and that makes the transition more smooth.
Zero2Cool
3 years ago

Okay, but we got, I think 6 college LTs and 2 college RTs, someone has to switch over. I'm not saying it's gonna be easy, just that it needs to be done.

I think Bakhtiari and Tom stay at LT, Runyan has already moved to LG. Keep him there unless you want Rhyan to win the starting LG job.

Nijman and Newman played at RT in college. And work Newman at both RG and RT.

Probably need to switch Rhyan to RT, so he can compete at RG and RT.

This leaves us with Van Lanen and Walker, out one on each side.

If they is the case, then only two LTs are going to the right side, Rhyan and either Van Lanen or Walker.

Originally Posted by: beast 



I absolutely understand that it can be done. The issue is fans thinking because someone played OK at LT it inherently means they can flop to the other side with the same level of play. It took me most of my teens to master switch hitting in the shower. I imagine playing offensive line in the NFL is a touch more challenging.

The only reason I have any issue here though is players will get attacked by dork fans with no knowledge. They sit in their little chair drinking their stale beer acting like they know it all because they played four downs in high school as a wing back.

My point here is just this. Yes, some players can switch sides with ease. Let's not just blindly assume it's a given and then if it doesn't work out, let's not slam the crap out of the guy for trying to do what is best for the team. That is all.

Last thing → I think it's less difficult for a rookie to switch sides than someone who has play two or more seasons already.
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3 years ago
Mr Zero2Cool said

It took me most of my teens to master switch hitting in the shower.

You are talking about baseball, correct? At least I hope so.
Go Packers!!!!
PackersNation
3 years ago

Mr Zero2Cool said You are talking about baseball, correct? At least I hope so.

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 



Haha Martha. I thought the same thing, but couldn't figure out a tactful way to ask. Plus, I didn't want to delve into a childs teen formative years.
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