Nonstopdrivel
5 years ago

If any of the other players start trying to change plays at the line of scrimmage, they'll have increased responsibility too.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Yeah: lots and lots of pushups on the sidelines.
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KRK
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5 years ago
Clearly, some posters may not have had the benefit of playing offense in an actual organized football game other than pee-wee football. At any level of reasonable quality, the quarterback can and must change the play at the line of scrimmage. In our case, with an highly experience QB, those options should not be mitigated.

Because of the nature and construct of the offense, i.e. with more pre-snap and motion, there are fewer viable options which can be called. Douche bag Florio takes this limitation into a pseudo-story to create controversy. He is a smug turd, IMO.

Additionally, what seems to go unnoticed is that coverages on the defensive side of the ball change all the time with shifts and motion, an no one seems to give a rip about these changes or who might be making them.

Enough.
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Zero2Cool
5 years ago

Clearly, some posters may not have had the benefit of playing offense in an actual organized football game other than pee-wee football. At any level of reasonable quality, the quarterback can and must change the play at the line of scrimmage. In our case, with an highly experience QB, those options should not be mitigated.

Because of the nature and construct of the offense, i.e. with more pre-snap and motion, there are fewer viable options which can be called. Douche bag Florio takes this limitation into a pseudo-story to create controversy. He is a smug turd, IMO.

Additionally, what seems to go unnoticed is that coverages on the defensive side of the ball change all the time with shifts and motion, an no one seems to give a rip about these changes or who might be making them.

Enough.

Originally Posted by: KRK 



Sandlot ball.

I would call out the routes to the WR's and usually one of my buddies was one so when we'd head to the line I'd give him a nod to cut his route in --- I liked having one WR streak down the line while the opposite side WR crossed into the middle of the field. I got chewed out a few times lol ... "Why the fuck you make me run so damn far if you weren't even gonna throw me the ball!!" Great times


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gbguy20
5 years ago
Little bit of extra cardio never hurt anyone. I liked doing 3 streaks down the sideline in a bunch but having one of them stop on a quick comeback
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steveishere
5 years ago
Rodgers has been in the nfl for 14 seasons, LaFleur would be a complete dope to not have audibles built into the offense lol. The obsession over the audible thing is hilarious.
warhawk
5 years ago

I would be willing to bet if you asked every defensive coordinator and every defensive player Arod will face this year they would all say "please take this out of his hands." Yet some here say yeah let's do that. What?
Now Matt LaFleur is a puppet because he didn't let Goff or Mariotta do it. Doesn't matter that that they weren't ready for it. Mariota had thrown more INT's than TD's the prior year but heck throw the "audible thing" on him anyhow. I'm sure that would have went well. Matt LaFleur is here as HC, in part, because of decisions he has made like this in the past. He doesn't need to start making the wrong ones now.

"The train is leaving the station."
sschind
5 years ago

Clearly, some posters may not have had the benefit of playing offense in an actual organized football game other than pee-wee football. At any level of reasonable quality, the quarterback can and must change the play at the line of scrimmage. In our case, with an highly experience QB, those options should not be mitigated.

Because of the nature and construct of the offense, i.e. with more pre-snap and motion, there are fewer viable options which can be called. Douche bag Florio takes this limitation into a pseudo-story to create controversy. He is a smug turd, IMO.

Additionally, what seems to go unnoticed is that coverages on the defensive side of the ball change all the time with shifts and motion, an no one seems to give a rip about these changes or who might be making them.

Enough.

Originally Posted by: KRK 



those options should not be mitigated

I agree with this about 90% and the reason you answered yourself with

Because of the nature and construct of the offense, i.e. with more pre-snap and motion, there are fewer viable options which can be called.

Rodgers needs to realize this an be content to trust MLF. This doesn't mean he can't audible he just needs to know that not all audibles may be viable options. In that respect his ability to audible should be mitigated. He needs to know he can't call whatever he wants whenever he wants.

As you and other have pointed out Aaron Rodgers has been one of the best and one of the most successful QBs in the game. For any coach young or old, veteran or rookie, to completely disregard this and take away his ability to use the knowledge he has gained would be flat out stupid. Something tells me MLF is not stupid.

As far as QBs calling audibles I'm sure they all have that option if the time is right. Some coaches may have varying degrees of tolerance to it but for any coach to tell his QB "you can't audible" I think is a huge mistake. QBs see things after the play is sent in and before the ball is snapped that may make changing the call the smart thing to do. I would hope every coach realizes that.
Cheesey
5 years ago

Let's see if Aaron is willing to line up under center and hand the ball off.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



He won’t. He will throw the ball EVERY play! He never handed the ball off even ONCE in the last 15 years!!!!🙄 😉
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