Cheesey
5 years ago
It’s not a pissing match. I’m not even arguing with Kevin. even if he thinks I am.
I see them as people as well. I just can’t understand why, when they become “stars”, they suddenly forget us “little people”. When Favre first got to Green Bay, he took the time to sign for fans. Once he hit the big time, he disappeared. But he would show up at card shows to sign for $100 a pop (or more)each. It priced guys like me out, as I didn’t have that kind of money.
I see Kevin’s point.
He might be right.
He might not be. Maybe I’m totally wrong. Maybe I’m just trying to figure out why so many of them lose touch with the people.
I can only say what I have experienced, and try to make sense of it.
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Zero2Cool
5 years ago

It’s not a pissing match. I’m not even arguing with Kevin. even if he thinks I am.
I see them as people as well. I just can’t understand why, when they become “stars”, they suddenly forget us “little people”. When Favre first got to Green Bay, he took the time to sign for fans. Once he hit the big time, he disappeared. But he would show up at card shows to sign for $100 a pop (or more)each. It priced guys like me out, as I didn’t have that kind of money.
I see Kevin’s point.
He might be right.
He might not be. Maybe I’m totally wrong. Maybe I’m just trying to figure out why so many of them lose touch with the people.
I can only say what I have experienced, and try to make sense of it.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



When you become a "star", more and more people want your time. That means you have less and less time. People aren't being forgotten. People forgetting that "stars" are people with finite amount of time is what is being forgotten.
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Cheesey
5 years ago

When you become a "star", more and more people want your time. That means you have less and less time. People aren't being forgotten. People forgetting that "stars" are people with finite amount of time is what is being forgotten.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I get that. I think part of their job, part of being famous, is giving some of your free time to the people that helped to make you famous. Guys like Clay Matthews, I never saw him sign anything for anyone. Never even saw him acknowledge fans after a practice.
I think some of them think their “you-know- what” doesn’t stink.
Ahman Green? Exact opposite. I never saw him not take a few minutes to sign for people.
The only money point I was trying to make (maybe not well) is that, if someone sells something they sign, it won’t take food out of their families mouths, or make it so they can’t pay their rent. They lose nothing, and most likely would make some fans day. Someone that may have spent money and vacation time to spend a day watching practice. I can’t tell you how many out of state license plates I have seen at a practice.
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PackerTraxx
5 years ago
They should give everybody tons of autographs to flood the market so the value is minimal - problem solved!😕 😕 😝
Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?
Cheesey
5 years ago

They should give everybody tons of autographs to flood the market so the value is minimal - problem solved!😕 😕 😝

Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx 



That is actually a good post. That WOULD work.
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Zero2Cool
5 years ago

They should give everybody tons of autographs to flood the market so the value is minimal - problem solved!😕 😕 😝

Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx 


Love it!

I get that. I think part of their job, part of being famous, is giving some of your free time to the people that helped to make you famous. Guys like Clay Matthews, I never saw him sign anything for anyone. Never even saw him acknowledge fans after a practice.
I think some of them think their “you-know- what” doesn’t stink.
Ahman Green? Exact opposite. I never saw him not take a few minutes to sign for people.
The only money point I was trying to make (maybe not well) is that, if someone sells something they sign, it won’t take food out of their families mouths, or make it so they can’t pay their rent. They lose nothing, and most likely would make some fans day. Someone that may have spent money and vacation time to spend a day watching practice. I can’t tell you how many out of state license plates I have seen at a practice.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Focus on the Ahman Green's and ignore the Clay Matthew III's because I assure you, there are more Greens than Matthews.
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Cheesey
5 years ago

Love it!



Focus on the Ahman Green's and ignore the Clay Matthew III's because I assure you, there are more Greens than Matthews.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Yes, there are many good guys. I realize that. That is why I brought up Green. Not all of them are bad.
William Henderson was another great guy. DD was another.
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Zero2Cool
5 years ago
Good people. Even this guy.



Edit.

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gbguy20
5 years ago
Don't forget these stars don't only deal with adoring fans. Most of them deal with hecklers constantly or have bullshit stories written about them in the media. That would certainly turn me off from the people too. Might just ruin the whole thing.
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Cheesey
5 years ago

Don't forget these stars don't only deal with adoring fans. Most of them deal with hecklers constantly or have bullshit stories written about them in the media. That would certainly turn me off from the people too. Might just ruin the whole thing.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



That’s true. But that’s part of being in the public eye. If you take the money and the fame, you have to take the bad too.
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