Zero2Cool
5 years ago
Huge win for Packers. They get more cap space and let go of a player they aren't utilizing. Lions snagged him up and cut Packers killer Theo Riddick in the process! Hell yeh!!
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beast
5 years ago

3. He signed for $4mm less, clearly he was overpaid.

Originally Posted by: KRK 

If someone signs for less, that doesn't automatically mean they were overpaid, especially if they were released outside of the hot FA period which is where FAs get the top dollar.

Also NFL.com is reporting Daniels got more money!

Daniels and the Detroit Lions agreed to a one-year, $9.1 million contract with $7.8 million guaranteed, sources told NFL Network's Mike Garafolo and Ian Rapoport. The team confirmed the news Saturday.

Daniels was slated to make $8.1 million in 2019, so his move to the Lions essentially comes with a $1 million raise.

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beast
5 years ago

Lions snagged him up and cut Packers killer Theo Riddick in the process! Hell yeh!!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

LaFleur usually likes having a good pass catching for 3rd down, so I might bring Riddick in look as he's been very good in the passing game. Though he wouldn't be guaranteed a spot.


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gbguy20
5 years ago

If someone signs for less, that doesn't automatically mean they were overpaid, especially if they were released outside of the hot FA period which is where FAs get the top dollar.

Also NFL.com is reporting Daniels got more money!

Originally Posted by: beast 



Depends how you look at it I guess. But that is probably right. It saved us 10+M to cut him. His base salary was 8.1 and everything after that we probably already paid him as a signing bonus. So if he is getting 9.1 from the lions then he probably is getting away with 1 million more than he would have got here. But the lions cap hit is 1+M less than what GB's was.
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beast
5 years ago

Depends how you look at it I guess. But that is probably right. It saved us 10+M to cut him. His base salary was 8.1 and everything after that we probably already paid him as a signing bonus. So if he is getting 9.1 from the lions then he probably is getting away with 1 million more than he would have got here. But the lions cap hit is 1+M less than what GB's was.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



That's why I keep telling people to stop following the cap, it's accounting, and unless you're used to accounting, and the accounting system, then it's confusing and screws people's math up.

Follow the money!, because the money is less confusing and the accounting is nothing more than a middle man (well, middle system) that's following the money as well. So if you simply follow the money you have less work to do to the correct answer and less confusion.
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Cheesey
5 years ago

I've got to side with go.pack.go on this.

That's a lot of bad karma, the Packers throwing a Nun to the Lions...

Originally Posted by: macbob 



Oh.....my.......I LOVE the response!!!!
You get the “Cheesey post of the day” award!!!😂
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go.pack.go.
5 years ago

How so? The guy talked a better game than he played.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



His play has not fallen off like Clay’s did the last few years. He’s been an excellent player for us, and in many instances our best pass rusher.
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Zero2Cool
5 years ago

His play has not fallen off like Clay’s did the last few years. He’s been an excellent player for us, and in many instances our best pass rusher.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 



This is not true. Sorry, we're not gonna see eye to eye on this one. I've often felt he talks a better game than he plays.
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macbob
5 years ago

Oh.....my.......I LOVE the response!!!!
You get the “Cheesey post of the day” award!!!😂

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Having enjoyed your most excellent posts over the years, this is an award I'm going to treasure. This is truly an honor! Made my day, Cheesey!
beast
5 years ago
Daniels was like Lang, when healthy, they can still play at the elite level.... they're just not staying healthy as often as they've gotten older... and I still think this is more about creating cap room and opportunities for the young talented players with potential that Gute thinks will be able to step up if given the room to step into a larger role.

The veteran defensive interior had a down year last season by his standards, producing an overall grade of 71.3 and playing just 419 snaps after sustaining a season-ending foot injury against the Seattle Seahawks in Week 11. While Daniels was lackluster in some respects, finishing five of his 10 games with a run-defense grade under 60.0, he was still one of the league’s best pass-rushers last season. He finished with a 78.5 pass-rush grade and pass-rushing productivity of 7.3, which rank ninth and sixth among qualifying interior defensive linemen, respectively. His 17.4% pass-rush win rate when shaded or head up on the guards ranked sixth among qualifiers, as well.

Daniels was also one of the league’s best when the pressure was at its highest, utterly dominating as a pass-rusher in the fourth quarter. His pass-rush win percentage of 21.2% in the fourth quarter was the third-highest among DIs with at least 30 pass-rush attempts in the fourth quarter last year. Daniels also produced a pass-rush grade of 76.6 in the fourth quarter, which was the 12th-highest mark among qualifiers at his position.

The veteran defensive tackle has consistently anchored the defensive line at a high level for multiple seasons, generating the eighth-best pass-rush grade either head up or shaded on the guards in the last four seasons at 86.3. His pass-rush win rate of 14.4% from that alignment ranks sixth among qualifiers, as well. Daniels has been a model of consistency, producing an overall grade of 70.0 or higher in six of his seven seasons and a pass-rush grade of 70.0 or higher in his last four seasons. He has also been a plus run-defender, grading at 75.0 or above in five of his seven seasons.

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