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TheKanataThrilla
5 years ago
I figured I'd start a thread so everyone can post who you really don't want Gute to draft.

Me personally I am going DK Metcalf. The guy has blazing speed I will give him that, and he can contest a jump ball. However, his lack of routes and his poor lateral skills in the 3 cone drill makes him a no go for me. The fact he had neck surgery just raises even more flags. I get players are always one hit away from retirement, but one would think a guy with a previous neck injury is that much closer than others.
nerdmann
5 years ago

I figured I'd start a thread so everyone can post who you really don't want Gute to draft.

Me personally I am going DK Metcalf. The guy has blazing speed I will give him that, and he can contest a jump ball. However, his lack of routes and his poor lateral skills in the 3 cone drill makes him a no go for me. The fact he had neck surgery just raises even more flags. I get players are always one hit away from retirement, but one would think a guy with a previous neck injury is that much closer than others.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



WR depth this year is in the mid rounds.
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Zero2Cool
5 years ago
I didn't see anything special about Metcalf on his college highlights. I also think someone with that physique is gonna be susceptible to injuries.
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TheKanataThrilla
5 years ago

WR depth this year is in the mid rounds.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Andy Isabella and Penny Hart are 2 WRs I am interested in.

Smokey
5 years ago

I didn't see anything special about Metcalf on his college highlights. I also think someone with that physique is gonna be susceptible to injuries.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I also heard that his low body fat % puts him at higher risk for cramping up.

Selecting another QB this draft would be a mistake, Lets get better with what we have, instead of starting another QB at square 1 , again.

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Mucky Tundra
5 years ago
Gonna echo DK Metcalf. His physique is a nice oddity but that's all I'm hearing about him. His teammate AJ Brown sounds a lot better
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5 years ago
I am concerned about Marquise Brown. He too little. If you want a return guy, ok fine but not the WR2. Sure he can bulk up a little. At 5-9 he won't bulk up very much and how much will his extra weight slow him down? That he's one big plus.

It sounds like Ed Oliver might be overrated. As a 2nd round pick, ok, but not @ 12.

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gbguy20
5 years ago

I am concerned about Marquise Brown. He too little. If you want a return guy, ok fine but not the WR2. Sure he can bulk up a little. At 5-9 he won't bulk up very much and how much will his extra weight slow him down? That he's one big plus.

It sounds like Ed Oliver might be overrated. As a 2nd round pick, ok, but not @ 12.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Ed Oliver will likely be gone by 12, I've seen Mocks from respected guys putting him in the top 5 even...


I also don't want Metcalf. He was a no name until the combine.
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nerdmann
5 years ago

I am concerned about Marquise Brown. He too little. If you want a return guy, ok fine but not the WR2. Sure he can bulk up a little. At 5-9 he won't bulk up very much and how much will his extra weight slow him down? That he's one big plus.

It sounds like Ed Oliver might be overrated. As a 2nd round pick, ok, but not @ 12.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Isn't he like 158 lbs?

There's this whole big group of smurfs this year, guys like 5" 9" and under. RBs too. I guess it works for Aaron Jones, but let's not go overboard, man!
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5 years ago

Ed Oliver will likely be gone by 12, I've seen Mocks from respected guys putting him in the top 5 even...


I also don't want Metcalf. He was a no name until the combine.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



I have too. I think most mocks have him going very high. One of the sites I was at said some GMs feel he really belongs at the bottom of the 1st round. That he's quick but not very strong. Others say he reminds them of Warren Sapp.
Someone said he only weighed 275 when he played and that he's not 6-1. That's pretty light for a DT.

Hey even GMs and their evaluation crew make mistakes.

I went to the combine page  and he's 6-2 287.
They also had this as his weaknesses:

Weaknesses
Squatty, unimposing frame falls below NFL size norms inside
Scouts say he played under 280 pounds
Lacks functional length
Gets mauled by down blocks and double teams
Struggles at times when offenses run downhill at him
Gets clogged up against wide-bodies
Unable to sustain early jolts into extended power
Backdoors blocks in lateral pursuit rather than winning across the face
Forced to work excessively at disengaging from blocks
Failed to convert explosiveness into impressive sack totals
Rush attack is more predictable than diverse



Everyone needs to grow and develop. He will probably develop too.
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