beast
5 years ago
Championship! :P

12 TE T.J. Hockenson, Complete TE, only has average speed, but has everything else and he can catch, run people over and make some miss, but as a blocking TE he's everything you might want and will help an OT if they need it.

30 FS Nasir Adderley, former CB, I think is perfect for what the Packers are looking for, a guy that plays smart, discipline, can hold up deep down field and ton of physical upside.

44 CB Julian Love, simply a very smart and verstile CB, who gets a ton of out his talent by making minimum mistakes just like S Amos who they just signed.

75 RB Damien Harris, power RB who can catch the ball as well and give the team the physical power RB.

114 WR Mecole Hardman, slot WR with great quickness and speed, but wasn't asked to learn many routes and wasn't used to the best of his abilities. Though Gute talked about wanting to get larger at slot WR, but Hardman physically abilities and the fact I think they're going to draft a returner (which Hardman does as well) made me grab him at least once. Two speed WRs on the field at once could come in handy at some point if a team struggles with speed.

118 TE Josh Oliver, A receving TE and Jimmy Graham's back-up, with a lot of athletic potential to grow.

150 OT Chuma Edoga, a VERY athletic OT, that needs some more developmental, namely with his hand use and technic, as well as his overall power. He needs development, but he's athletic enough he stay at LT if he's able to fix his problems and at this price I think it's worth a risk.
========

185 Edge Jalen Jelks, I HAD to draft Jelks at some point just to talk about him (and.no I don't believe he should fall this far, but they had it, so I went with it). Jelks is built tall, thin and long, almost just like Fackrell, but they're completely opposites... though neither one was taught/used as an edge rusher in college. Fackrell was more of a coverage zone nickel CB role, and Jelks played 3-4 DE.

Jelks somehow with that tall long body did quite well playing physical! But there just is almost no hope he can stay at interior DL, and despite being quite athletic, he's shown zero knowledge of playing edge and knowing how to set himself up, to be able to turn the corner like you would expect from an edge rusher.

Long story short, you can't just simply throw Jelks out there, he's a mismatch in a bad way... but he's athletic, and tough as needed getting everything out body he can, if a defensive coordinator uses Jelks smartly, they can set him up to protect the edge and then sometime ask him to dive up the middle and have a DB blitz the edge like Pettine does and it very well might work.

Sorry for all of that, I'm just find Jelks interesting, while he's got a major proper fit problem in his game, he's also got some majority toughness and raw athletic tools
=========

194 RB Devine Ozigbo, a big body, one year wonder, who reshaped his body and got into a new scheme full of zone concepts and used quickness and power and took advantage. Ozigbo really could be a diamond in the rough, or a bust if he reverts... but swing for the fences and Aaron Jones was the 2nd RB in his Packers draft class.

226 ILB Terrill Hanks, former Safety, with coverage LB size moved to LB his last year... GREAT athletic skill set for the 7th round, and quick to attack. The problems are that he's still adjusting to a new position, he's not good at dealing with OL blocks (most coverage ILBers aren't), and worse of all seems to have a low football IQ.... meaning he needs to have a simple system, or agressive system that tells him what to do so he doesn't have to think.

Hanks is great if it's simply, see ball, get ball (so hopefully great ST player), or simply follow that guy in coverage... but if you start asking him to read and react, he's a goner.
UserPostedImage
KRK
  • KRK
  • Veteran Member
5 years ago
Guys I know in Buffalo think they are taking TJ Hockenson at 9.
In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK
Rockmolder
5 years ago

Guys I know in Buffalo think they are taking TJ Hockenson at 9.

Originally Posted by: KRK 



I could see why. A tight end is a young QB's best friend, especially when that QB hasn't looked all that great during his rookie season.

They only had Jason Croom left on the roster. They overpaid for Tyler Kroft, just so they could have something at TE. Then added an offensive linemen in Jake Fisher in the hope that he'll pan out as a blocking tight end. There's certainly a need at the position.

Only thing is that Beane hasn't exactly drafted for need so far, but I guess he has to help Allen out and a lot of the value picks at 9 are on the other side of the ball. I'm reading a lot about replacing Kyle Williams with Wilkins, Oliver or Gary, but I'd rather see if I could trade back and help Allen in some sort of way. Helping him get going should be your number 1 priority, even if it means giving up 30 points per game this year.
Rockmolder
5 years ago
12 - Rashan Gary, EDGE - Michigan

A player that has about 0,01% chance of actually falling to pick 12. Don't think he needs all that much introduction, anymore.

30 - Marquise Brown, WR - Oklahoma

A pick I'd love to see. Already wrote a bit about him.

44 - Johnathan Abram, S - Mississippi State

This would be a perfect addition to our defense. You can get him into the gameplan on 1st against run-heavy teams, especially with Amos being such a safe player. You can then get him on the field in passing situations as a nickle LB, get him on tight ends et cetera.

It's beneficial in more ways that one. We've had the discussion about Amos dropping into one of those linebacker roles, but with Abram on the team, you won't have to move him around. Could be a big plus, since Amos defines the word safety and is a guy you can truly depend on deep.

75 - Juan Thornhill, S - Virginia

And another safety. One that's more in the mold of the guy we want to have playing at safety full-time. He can fly, has a nose for the ball and is versatile enough to move around the field. He takes risks, but that's why he'd be perfect to couple up with Amos.

I don't think picking two safeties would be that bad an idea. There's no one on the roster right now I'd say can't be upgraded by a decent rookie or has actually earned a spot, rather than our big signing.

Interesting tidbit to get everyone riled up here... His NFL.com scouting report says he compares best to Ha Ha Clinton-Dix.

114 - Kahale Warring, TE - San Diego State

A guy with lots of potential. Great athlete. Not the fastest tight end you'll every see, has all the tools to develop into a decent starter, at the very least.

There's some very good value at TE around round 3 and 4. Between Wilson, Warring and Oliver you have three guys who are all good receivers, but need some work in blocking. They all have some upside and I'd gladly get either of them at this point.

118 - Rodney Anderson, RB - Oklahoma

Big gamble. Got season-ending injuries in 3 of his 4 college seasons. That said, talentwise he'd normally be closer to round 1 than round 4. I feel like this is the point in the draft where you don't find players without faults, anyway. Might as well go for the home run.

Perfect addition to Aaron Jones and our zone blocking scheme. Sees holes developing, can cut upfield and through traffic and has reliable hands. The fact that he'll have trouble running outside the tackles in the NFL according to most scouts doesn't bother me that much at this point in the draft. Especially not since we have Jones on our roster.

Overall, I would've liked to get some OL-help in and maybe get a prospect at OLB, but the draft didn't pan out that way. If we could get this haul of players, I'd be more than happy, though.
Zero2Cool
5 years ago
I pretty much nailed this draft out of the park.

Montez Sweat and Daniel Jones in the first round while getting Nasir Adderly in round two.

https://thedraftnetwork.com/mockdraft/ZXXzy32BXT 


UserPostedImage
KRK
  • KRK
  • Veteran Member
5 years ago
For whatever reason, when I click on the link, I can only see round one despite clicking on subsequent round numbers. I love round 1 tho
In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK
KRK
  • KRK
  • Veteran Member
5 years ago
Four Rounds
12 Jonah Williams, OT Alabama
30 T.J. Hockenson, TE Iowa
44 Charles Omenihu, IDL Texas
75 Daniel Jones, QB Duke
114 Andy Isabella, WR UMass
118 Beau Benzschawel G Wisconsin
In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK
Zero2Cool
5 years ago

For whatever reason, when I click on the link, I can only see round one despite clicking on subsequent round numbers. I love round 1 tho

Originally Posted by: KRK 



You should be able to click something on the right side to just show my picks, or what is actually just the Packers selections.
UserPostedImage
5 years ago
Here is what I would consider ideal. Hopefully I see something close play out when I'm in Nashville next week! Watch for me. I'll be one of the guys wearing "Doink 1" and "Doink 2" t-shirts a la Thing 1 and Thing 2, when the Bears are picking.

UserPostedImage
Zero2Cool
5 years ago

Just to be clear, I think they're going to be running a lot of double TE sets with a receving TE and all around TE.

12 TE T.J. Hockenson (All around TE)

30 CB Byron Murphy (Very athletic CB)

44 OL Dalton Risner (Maybe better for OG but with TE help might be able to play RT).

75 S Darnell Savage (Great tackling and verstile S, though they missed out on those elite deep single coverage FS types)

114 TE Josh Oliver (receving TE)

118 S Marquise Blair (a developmental FS)

150 WR Stanley Morgan Jr. (A great route runner and verstile player, who Thompson would never draft because of his hands/catching need some work but Gute seems more loose with that)

185 RB Devine Ozigbo (A big RB with some nice power and work in zone blocking)

194 WR Penny Hart (Slot WR /return guy)

226 RB Elijah Holyfield (power runner, with very quick speed and great short area movement skills... but almost no speed to speak of and unproven as a receiver).

Originally Posted by: beast 



Another piece of evidence we reached for Savage
UserPostedImage
Users browsing this topic
    Fan Shout
    Mucky Tundra (12h) : Agreed; you stinks
    Zero2Cool (12h) : I'm not beating anyone. I stinks.
    Mucky Tundra (13h) : rough injury for tank dell. guy can't catch abreak
    beast (14h) : So far the college playoffs have sucked... One team absolutely dominates the other
    beast (17h) : Well even if you weren't positive towards a guy, you wouldn't nessarily want to tell the media that (if they don't know about it)
    Martha Careful (17h) : I think MLF want Love to look past the end half issues, and feel good about his play. Our coaches generally keep a very positive tone.
    beast (17h) : I think a great running game will do that for most QBs
    packerfanoutwest (18h) : Coach Matt LaFleur has said quarterback Jordan Love is playing the best football of his career.
    beast (21-Dec) : Oh, that's how you keep beating buckeye, with cheating
    Zero2Cool (20-Dec) : There is a rule that if your name starts with 'b' you lose 15 points. Hey, I don't make the rules, I just enforce them!
    wpr (20-Dec) : and then there is Beast. Running away with it all.
    beast (20-Dec) : As of tonight, 3 way tie for 2nd in Pick'em, that battle is interesting!
    beast (20-Dec) : Lions vs Vikings could be the main last game as it could determine division winners or #1 vs #2 seed
    Mucky Tundra (20-Dec) : Or if KC needs to win for the #1 seed
    Mucky Tundra (20-Dec) : Right now it looks like the only prime worthy games are Det-Minny and KC-Denver (if Denver can clinch a wild card spot)
    Mucky Tundra (20-Dec) : The entirety of week 18 being listed as flex is weird
    Zero2Cool (19-Dec) : Matt LaFleur today says unequivocally "Ted Thompson had nothing to do with the drafting of Jordan Love."
    Zero2Cool (19-Dec) : Apparently, the editing is what pieces comments together. That Ted thing ... fake news.
    Zero2Cool (19-Dec) : LaFleur "opportunity that Ted Thompson thought was too good to pass up"
    Zero2Cool (19-Dec) : Jordan Love pick was Ted Thompson's idea.
    Mucky Tundra (19-Dec) : Kyle Shanahan on signing De'Vondre Campbell as a FA last offseason: “We obviously made a mistake.”
    packerfanoutwest (19-Dec) : Alexander’s last season with GB
    Martha Careful (18-Dec) : if I were a professional athlete, I would probably look to see who the agent is for Kirk Cousins and then use him
    beast (18-Dec) : $100 million fully guaranteed Kirk Cousins gets benched for rookie
    Mucky Tundra (18-Dec) : a lower case b
    Mucky Tundra (18-Dec) : The real lie is how beast capitalized his name in his message while it's normally spelled with
    packerfanoutwest (18-Dec) : haha that's a lie
    beast (17-Dec) : Despite what lies other might tell, Beast didn't hate the Winter Warnings, it felt refreshing to Beast for some reason.
    Zero2Cool (17-Dec) : whiteout uniforms in general are pretty lame and weak. NFL greed at it's worst
    Martha Careful (17-Dec) : The Viking uniforms, the whiteout uniforms specifically absolutely suck
    beast (17-Dec) : Thanks Zero2Cool, looks a lot better now
    beast (17-Dec) : Seems like someone has a crush on me, can't stop talking about me
    Zero2Cool (17-Dec) : Should be gooder now. The forum default theme went to goofy land.
    Zero2Cool (17-Dec) : What the hell
    packerfanoutwest (17-Dec) : yeah beast hates the Winter Warning Unies
    Mucky Tundra (16-Dec) : Okay I'm glad to know it's not just something happening to me lol
    Mucky Tundra (16-Dec) : Zero, did you copy the Packers uniforms from last night and white out the board?
    beast (16-Dec) : Oh crap, is the board going to the Winter Warning Uniforms too?!? It's all white on white right now!
    Zero2Cool (16-Dec) : WR Odell Beckham Jr is officially a free agent after clearing waivers.
    Zero2Cool (16-Dec) : Packers are 6th in sacks.
    Zero2Cool (16-Dec) : RB David Montgomery will undergo season-ending knee surgery.
    Mucky Tundra (16-Dec) : Dan Campbell on onside kick with 12 minutes left: In hindsight, wish I didn’t do that
    Zero2Cool (16-Dec) : They have that whole 12th man thing so ...
    Zero2Cool (16-Dec) : Of the times we've played there, I just can't recall hearing our fans.
    wpr (16-Dec) : Well done jdlax. Well done.
    wpr (16-Dec) : I think more likely to be Pack fans that live in the area.
    wpr (16-Dec) : Pack fans represent. I pointed it out early in the game to my wife. Announcers said Packers travel well.
    Zero2Cool (16-Dec) : That was crazy to hear go pack go in Seattle of all plays. That 12 man thing an all
    Mucky Tundra (16-Dec) : jdlax, good man!
    jdlax (16-Dec) : Mucky, there were too many of us there to credit any single one but for sure i was 60% responsible.
    Please sign in to use Fan Shout
    2024 Packers Schedule
    Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
    Eagles
    Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
    COLTS
    Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
    Titans
    Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
    VIKINGS
    Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
    Rams
    Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
    CARDINALS
    Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
    TEXANS
    Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
    Jaguars
    Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
    LIONS
    Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
    Bears
    Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
    49ERS
    Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
    DOLPHINS
    Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
    Lions
    Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
    Seahawks
    Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
    SAINTS
    Sunday, Dec 29 @ 12:00 PM
    Vikings
    Saturday, Jan 4 @ 11:00 PM
    BEARS
    Recent Topics
    9h / Green Bay Packers Talk / packerfanoutwest

    17h / Green Bay Packers Talk / packerfanoutwest

    19-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    19-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    19-Dec / Random Babble / Zero2Cool

    18-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    17-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    17-Dec / Featured Content / Zero2Cool

    16-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    16-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    16-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    16-Dec / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Mucky Tundra

    16-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    16-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    16-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    Headlines
    Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.