beast
5 years ago
Just to be clear, I think they're going to be running a lot of double TE sets with a receving TE and all around TE.

12 TE T.J. Hockenson (All around TE)

30 CB Byron Murphy (Very athletic CB)

44 OL Dalton Risner (Maybe better for OG but with TE help might be able to play RT).

75 S Darnell Savage (Great tackling and verstile S, though they missed out on those elite deep single coverage FS types)

114 TE Josh Oliver (receving TE)

118 S Marquise Blair (a developmental FS)

150 WR Stanley Morgan Jr. (A great route runner and verstile player, who Thompson would never draft because of his hands/catching need some work but Gute seems more loose with that)

185 RB Devine Ozigbo (A big RB with some nice power and work in zone blocking)

194 WR Penny Hart (Slot WR /return guy)

226 RB Elijah Holyfield (power runner, with very quick speed and great short area movement skills... but almost no speed to speak of and unproven as a receiver).
UserPostedImage
KRK
  • KRK
  • Veteran Member
5 years ago
Beast, I like your Dalton Risner pick, but just for giggles, and you know I like the big uglies... IF you were to take some OT, OG/C in the 114, 118 slots, who would you take?
In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK
warhawk
5 years ago
Gute has this draft set up for a great chess match. I put the over/under of moves he makes up or down at 3.
I couldn't even begin to project how this will play out. It's going to fun watching it though.




"The train is leaving the station."
buckeyepackfan
5 years ago
No trades .
BPA


Round 1 Pick 12: Gary, Rashan, DE/DT, Michigan
Round 1 Pick 30: Lawrence, Dexter, DT, Clemson
Round 2 Pick 12: Adderley, Nassir, CB/FS, Delaware
Round 3 Pick 11: Jordan, Michael, OG/C, Ohio State
Round 4 Pick 12: Hill, Justice, RB, Oklahoma State
Round 4 Pick 16: Hall, Emanuel, WR, Missouri
Round 5 Pick 12: Webster, Ken, CB, Mississippi
Round 6 Pick 12: Alfieri, Joey, OLB, Stanford
Round 6 Pick 21: Smith, Cameron, ILB, Southern California
Round 7 Pick 12: Richard, Milan, TE, Clemson
I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
KRK
  • KRK
  • Veteran Member
5 years ago
My Last and Final Draft BPA and Need - We are set at QB for the next 10 years:

12 T.J. Hockenson, TE Iowa
30 Daniel Jones, QB Duke
44 Deionte Thompson, S Alabama
75 Connor McGovern, IOL Penn State
114 Chuma Edoga, OT USC
118 Joe Giles-Harris, LB Duke
150 Stanley Morgan Jr., WR Nebraska
185 Elijah Holyfield, RB Georgia
194 Devine Ozigbo, RB Nebraska
226 James Williams, RB Washington State
In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK
beast
5 years ago

Beast, I like your Dalton Risner pick, but just for giggles, and you know I like the big uglies... IF you were to take some OT, OG/C in the 114, 118 slots, who would you take?

Originally Posted by: KRK 


Off the top of my head, I don't know, and it would depend on who falls... though I did have one mock where I looked at some of the Oklahoma OL in that range and found them interesting, especially since they where heavy into zone blocking and were pretty good at it, and are new scheme is expected to be very heavy into it as well.

Though, on a down side, it's been argued that the Big 12 isn't exactly where you go to find the top defensive line talent and they might not of been facing even the best that college football has to offer of DL talent to face off against, which I believe Risner too.

Majority of the Packers OL over recent years have been Big 10, Pac 12 or small school

My Last and Final Draft BPA and Need - We are set at QB for the next 10 years:

12 T.J. Hockenson, TE Iowa
30 Daniel Jones, QB Duke
44 Deionte Thompson, S Alabama
75 Connor McGovern, IOL Penn State
114 Chuma Edoga, OT USC
118 Joe Giles-Harris, LB Duke
150 Stanley Morgan Jr., WR Nebraska
185 Elijah Holyfield, RB Georgia
194 Devine Ozigbo, RB Nebraska
226 James Williams, RB Washington State

Originally Posted by: KRK 



BUT, BUT 😕 you waited until pick #75 to draft OL 👅 🤣

I remember Chuma Edoga was another one I was looking at and had some interested in.

3 RBs to close? ... though I like your first two late power RBs (don't know the 3rd guy), but Holyfield is interesting other than he has no speed... but great power and quickness, if he had average speed he would be a lot better... if he had good speed he could be great (but he doesn't), but hey, if you're just looking for 1st downs and not touchdowns, he might still be great within context.

UserPostedImage
KRK
  • KRK
  • Veteran Member
5 years ago
Beast Enumerated

😕 😕 you waited until pick #75 to draft OL 🤣

🤣 I am too dumb to know (and lazy not to learn) how to trade down and gotten another second round or early 3rd pick, otherwise, I would have pick one higher. I actually like the Penn State guy alot....I think he starts.

I looked at some of the Oklahoma OL in that range and found them interesting, especially since they where heavy into zone blocking and were pretty good at it, and are new scheme is expected to be very heavy into it as well.

Great point....part of the problem in picking guys is understanding the system they came form to project fit, and these guys would seem to fit. I just am not enamored with the whole Big 12 thing. If I pulled game film and could see whether or not they did well against quality outside the Big 12, I might be more interested.

3 RBs to close? ..

Yeah, I kind of got bored with it. I figured if I had a 33% hit rate, we would have our 3rd guy. Also, yes, I am more interested in an guy who will consistently move the chains, especially on short yardage, and pass protect, versus the flash (realistically, that is the most you can hope for in a 7th round guy.)
In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK
KRK
  • KRK
  • Veteran Member
5 years ago
With the numerous websites and mock drafts predicting the Packers will draft TJ Hockenson TE from Iowa, it is now approaching 95% that certainty that they will not.
In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK
beast
5 years ago

With the numerous websites and mock drafts predicting the Packers will draft TJ Hockenson TE from Iowa, it is now approaching 95% that certainty that they will not.

Originally Posted by: KRK 



Depends on whose available (including if Hockinson is still available), I think it could come down to Gute's opinion on position value vs complete player value.

Like it was widely believed that OG Quenton Nelson was the best player (or top three at worse) in last year draft, though no one thought he actually going to go in the top three because he's position is considered less valuable.

Like that so is TE (though not as much as OG), but Hockenson is also pretty much a complete player other than he only has average speed.


But teams might want the complete player, or they might want a more valuable and harder to find quality position like CB, edge rusher, etc.
UserPostedImage
beast
5 years ago
Testing, testing, 1 2 3
UserPostedImage
Users browsing this topic
    Fan Shout
    Mucky Tundra (7h) : Agreed; you stinks
    Zero2Cool (7h) : I'm not beating anyone. I stinks.
    Mucky Tundra (8h) : rough injury for tank dell. guy can't catch abreak
    beast (9h) : So far the college playoffs have sucked... One team absolutely dominates the other
    beast (12h) : Well even if you weren't positive towards a guy, you wouldn't nessarily want to tell the media that (if they don't know about it)
    Martha Careful (12h) : I think MLF want Love to look past the end half issues, and feel good about his play. Our coaches generally keep a very positive tone.
    beast (12h) : I think a great running game will do that for most QBs
    packerfanoutwest (13h) : Coach Matt LaFleur has said quarterback Jordan Love is playing the best football of his career.
    beast (23h) : Oh, that's how you keep beating buckeye, with cheating
    Zero2Cool (20-Dec) : There is a rule that if your name starts with 'b' you lose 15 points. Hey, I don't make the rules, I just enforce them!
    wpr (20-Dec) : and then there is Beast. Running away with it all.
    beast (20-Dec) : As of tonight, 3 way tie for 2nd in Pick'em, that battle is interesting!
    beast (20-Dec) : Lions vs Vikings could be the main last game as it could determine division winners or #1 vs #2 seed
    Mucky Tundra (20-Dec) : Or if KC needs to win for the #1 seed
    Mucky Tundra (20-Dec) : Right now it looks like the only prime worthy games are Det-Minny and KC-Denver (if Denver can clinch a wild card spot)
    Mucky Tundra (20-Dec) : The entirety of week 18 being listed as flex is weird
    Zero2Cool (19-Dec) : Matt LaFleur today says unequivocally "Ted Thompson had nothing to do with the drafting of Jordan Love."
    Zero2Cool (19-Dec) : Apparently, the editing is what pieces comments together. That Ted thing ... fake news.
    Zero2Cool (19-Dec) : LaFleur "opportunity that Ted Thompson thought was too good to pass up"
    Zero2Cool (19-Dec) : Jordan Love pick was Ted Thompson's idea.
    Mucky Tundra (19-Dec) : Kyle Shanahan on signing De'Vondre Campbell as a FA last offseason: “We obviously made a mistake.”
    packerfanoutwest (19-Dec) : Alexander’s last season with GB
    Martha Careful (18-Dec) : if I were a professional athlete, I would probably look to see who the agent is for Kirk Cousins and then use him
    beast (18-Dec) : $100 million fully guaranteed Kirk Cousins gets benched for rookie
    Mucky Tundra (18-Dec) : a lower case b
    Mucky Tundra (18-Dec) : The real lie is how beast capitalized his name in his message while it's normally spelled with
    packerfanoutwest (18-Dec) : haha that's a lie
    beast (17-Dec) : Despite what lies other might tell, Beast didn't hate the Winter Warnings, it felt refreshing to Beast for some reason.
    Zero2Cool (17-Dec) : whiteout uniforms in general are pretty lame and weak. NFL greed at it's worst
    Martha Careful (17-Dec) : The Viking uniforms, the whiteout uniforms specifically absolutely suck
    beast (17-Dec) : Thanks Zero2Cool, looks a lot better now
    beast (17-Dec) : Seems like someone has a crush on me, can't stop talking about me
    Zero2Cool (17-Dec) : Should be gooder now. The forum default theme went to goofy land.
    Zero2Cool (17-Dec) : What the hell
    packerfanoutwest (17-Dec) : yeah beast hates the Winter Warning Unies
    Mucky Tundra (16-Dec) : Okay I'm glad to know it's not just something happening to me lol
    Mucky Tundra (16-Dec) : Zero, did you copy the Packers uniforms from last night and white out the board?
    beast (16-Dec) : Oh crap, is the board going to the Winter Warning Uniforms too?!? It's all white on white right now!
    Zero2Cool (16-Dec) : WR Odell Beckham Jr is officially a free agent after clearing waivers.
    Zero2Cool (16-Dec) : Packers are 6th in sacks.
    Zero2Cool (16-Dec) : RB David Montgomery will undergo season-ending knee surgery.
    Mucky Tundra (16-Dec) : Dan Campbell on onside kick with 12 minutes left: In hindsight, wish I didn’t do that
    Zero2Cool (16-Dec) : They have that whole 12th man thing so ...
    Zero2Cool (16-Dec) : Of the times we've played there, I just can't recall hearing our fans.
    wpr (16-Dec) : Well done jdlax. Well done.
    wpr (16-Dec) : I think more likely to be Pack fans that live in the area.
    wpr (16-Dec) : Pack fans represent. I pointed it out early in the game to my wife. Announcers said Packers travel well.
    Zero2Cool (16-Dec) : That was crazy to hear go pack go in Seattle of all plays. That 12 man thing an all
    Mucky Tundra (16-Dec) : jdlax, good man!
    jdlax (16-Dec) : Mucky, there were too many of us there to credit any single one but for sure i was 60% responsible.
    Please sign in to use Fan Shout
    2024 Packers Schedule
    Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
    Eagles
    Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
    COLTS
    Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
    Titans
    Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
    VIKINGS
    Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
    Rams
    Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
    CARDINALS
    Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
    TEXANS
    Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
    Jaguars
    Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
    LIONS
    Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
    Bears
    Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
    49ERS
    Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
    DOLPHINS
    Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
    Lions
    Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
    Seahawks
    Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
    SAINTS
    Sunday, Dec 29 @ 12:00 PM
    Vikings
    Saturday, Jan 4 @ 11:00 PM
    BEARS
    Recent Topics
    4h / Green Bay Packers Talk / packerfanoutwest

    12h / Green Bay Packers Talk / packerfanoutwest

    19-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    19-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    19-Dec / Random Babble / Zero2Cool

    18-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    17-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    17-Dec / Featured Content / Zero2Cool

    16-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    16-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    16-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    16-Dec / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Mucky Tundra

    16-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    16-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    16-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    Headlines
    Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.