Raiders release Jordy Nelson· Page 2

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

5 years ago

Perhaps. The rookies certainly made their share of mistakes, but in plenty of instances, I don't think Aaron Rodgers was doing them any favors either.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel

You just brought up the ONE player who matters.

Aaron Rodgers.
Would he rather be throwing to Davante, Allison and one of the rookies?
Or Davante, Allison and Jordy?
3 guys he trusts on the field.

Gutey didn't just spend 216mil over the next 4 years to win in 2 or 3 years.

He is all in for this year.

Bringing back Jordy Nelson one year will make The Packers better in 2019!

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

5 years ago

#12

They didn’t suck. But they weren’t Jordy. No receivers other than Davante stepped up this past year, that was pretty obvious.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go.

Based on Brian comments. I think Jordy was let go so Davante could grow. That's why the offer was "insulting" they gave Jordy. They needed him gone so Davante is who the offense would go through.

For this reason, I don't see Jordy coming back.

Mucky Tundra
Honored Member

5 years ago

#13

Any production Jordy could provide would be based solely on his rapport with Rodgers. Has no upside left. Let him go guys, let him go.

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buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#14

They didn’t suck. But they weren’t Jordy. No receivers other than Davante stepped up this past year, that was pretty obvious.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

What's he going to say, "I screwed up"
At the combine Jordy was still a Raider.
Circumstances have changed.

There's plenty of time.

Gutey said he wasn't going to leave any stone unturned when it came to FA.

What is the harm in contacting Jordys agent and see where they stand?

Every once in awhile it just makes sense to do the improbable

Never listen to the fans. Except........

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go.pack.go.
Veteran Member Topic Starter

5 years ago

#15

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

Exactly.

I’m not saying break the bank on him. But having him on the roster over somebody like Trevor Davis? That’s an absolute no brainer.

If he’s available for a good price, bring him back. His chemistry with Rodgers has always been second to none. We’re trying to win now, not rebuild for 5 years down the road.

DoddPower
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#16

No. The Packers need to do better than a slow old receiver.

beast
Select Member

5 years ago

#17

Cobb did suck, and Gute did screw up by keeping Cobb at that price point, especially when 1) He could of had Nelson 2) Nelson was willing to sign a really cheap return deal until his personal meeting with Gute.... where Gute chased him off.

Packers struggles we're on 3rd downs and redzone, both would have been much better with Rodgers having Nelson as an option.

As far as going forward, I don't see Gute resigning Nelson unless it's a one day retirement contract. But it would still be hard to beat Rodgers targeting Nelson on a short yardage 3rd down or end zone conversation.

Rockmolder
Honored Member

5 years ago

#18

Originally Posted by: beast

Third option is he could've cut them both and looked around on the FA market. Something that would've been a better route to take than either of those options.

Didn't hear about Nelson wanting to take a paycut to come back at first, but I can also make very little from the quote he gave about it.

"I think the [pay cut] number was part of it, but also the conversation I had in the meeting," Nelson said. "I met with Brian and had a discussion because I had to get a feel for not just the pay cut but what their plans were going forward. After that meeting, there wasn't, I don't think, much desire there. I think with the combination of both, we decided what was best for myself and my family [just] as they decided what was best for them and the Packers."

Much desire can be anything from them stating that Davante would be the vocal point of the offense, to offering him just a 1 year contract, to asking him to make a take a bigger paycut than he anticipated. All very understandable reasons.

If something more concrete ever came out, I'd gladly hear it, btw.

Packers struggles we're on 3rd downs and redzone, both would have been much better with Rodgers having Nelson as an option.

As far as going forward, I don't see Gute resigning Nelson unless it's a one day retirement contract. But it would still be hard to beat Rodgers targeting Nelson on a short yardage 3rd down or end zone conversation.

I agree. But certainly not at the price that the Raiders eventually paid for him. And at this point in his career, not at the price of releasing our current WRs, not drafting a WR high or cap room.

Rockmolder
Honored Member

5 years ago

#19

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go.

But what does chemistry bring you in the end, if Nelson just can't physically do it anymore?

It's like the 2008 Colts, who kept on to Marvin Harrison (a lot better player than Nelson ever was) because the chemistry between him and Peyton was second to none. It led to Peyton forcing the ball to a receiver that could no longer do it, physically, nabbing 20 catches away from the explosive Reggie Wayne and stopping Pierre Garcon from getting on the field.

I don't want Rodgers forcing it to Nelson because they know eachother. I'd like to see MVS more involved, us drafting a WR high and have Adams as our vocal point.

Even if Nelson himself would somehow agree to a $ 1 million, 1 year contract to play 4th string WR, you have to wonder if it's worth all the hassle between our new coach, Rodgers undoubtedly wanting to get Jordy more involved (if the offense hits a rough patch) and Jordy who's either in between the two parties or believes he's better than the guys on the field, as well.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

5 years ago

#20

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

Why would he say he screwed up? He didn't. He wanted the offense to go through Davante and with Jordy on the roster thay wasn't gonna happen.

I think this is interesting.

"Normally, when you hand out a bonus for next year's season, there's a pretty good chance those guys are coming back," Gruden said Dec. 28. "If you watched Jordy play carefully the last four weeks when he's been healthy, you see what he's capable of doing. I think as we continue to improve this football team around some of the core guys that are here, I think you can even see better and better days ahead.

"So yeah, he'll be back."

It sounds kinda like Jordy might be having some health issues, or is that just coach being a douche?

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