Zero2Cool
6 years ago
Rob Gronkowski Cap Hit $10,859,375
47 catches
682 yards
14.5 yards/catch
3 TD's

Jimmy Graham Cap Hit $5,916,666
55 catches
636 yards
11.6 yards/catch
2 TD's
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gbguy20
6 years ago
Gronk had a down year as well. He's been talking about retirement for a year or two. His body looks done. Much slower than he was before.
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6 years ago
Gronk also missed 4 games and played sparingly in others....still a got to guy...not so with Graham

Also Gronk blocks very well, always has. Graham does not, and never has.
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Zero2Cool
6 years ago

Gronk also missed 4 games and played sparingly in others....still a got to guy...not so with Graham

Also Gronk blocks very well, always has. Graham does not, and never has.

Originally Posted by: KRK 



He played in 13 games, with two healthy thumbs. Graham play how many games with a broken thumb?


Yes, the blocking is the huge difference. Gronkowski (from what I've heard) has been awesome blocking this season.
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KRK
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6 years ago
Z2C accurately stated:

He played in 13 games, with two healthy thumbs. Graham play how many games with a broken thumb?

True. But how many games did Graham have a bad back and ankle? Broken thumbs don't generally slow you down. I admire the effort of playing with the broken thumbs, but he is done...especially at that price.
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Zero2Cool
6 years ago

Z2C accurately stated:True. But how many games did Graham have a bad back and ankle? Broken thumbs don't generally slow you down. I admire the effort of playing with the broken thumbs, but he is done...especially at that price.

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Yep, I'm done with him. I only caught a few games where he opened things up for the other WR. That was until teams realized he wasn't much of a threat.

I saw this somewhere else and I agree. The decision to release Jordy Nelson was the right decision. The decision to sign Jimmy Graham, was not the right decision.

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Cheesey
6 years ago
Gronk is probably done. But he still demands attention from other teams, thus opening it up for other receivers.
That can be huge.
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nerdmann
6 years ago
Do we have someone better than him with which to replace him?

Dude runs like Chmura. Chewie got it done. Jimmy doesn't have to run like Greg Jennings in LeFleur's offense. As for his blocking, he was managing to fall down in front of people halfway decently by end of season. The effort was there, the results were slightly below average.

Heck I might even bring Mercedes Lewis back. Doesn't LeFleur like those blocking TEs? Let them compete.

Recall, Graham was on pace for the all time team receptions record for TEs, before the thumb injury. He's not what he was, but he can still reach higher than most CBs.


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dhazer
6 years ago
Gronk can still take over a game if needed, just look at the playoffs in crunch time. Brady went right to the money in Gronk. Graham is washed up and for what its worth we could bring in Brandon Marshall and put him at TE lol, he probably would block better than Graham.
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buckeyepackfan
6 years ago
The Patriots have 12 draft picks in the coming draft, maybe The Packers can get a 4th or 5th round pick for Graham since Gronk has announced his retirement after Sunday.

Just kidding, Patriots would never waste a pick.

Fraham is in Green Bay fir at least another year.
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