Zero2Cool
6 years ago

I don't think Rodgers sits unless he's injured. If they don't plan on bringing Cobb back, then I hope he gets IRed (he didn't practice) and try to get some young guys more playing time.



Depends on the year, the draft and the luck/knowledge of the person making the selection.
Though surprisingly looks like the 13th pick as been better than the 9th pick more often than I would of thought.

Difference between 9th and 13th picks
2018: OT Mike McGlinchey vs DT Daron Payne
2017: WR John Ross vs LB Haason Reddick
2016: OLB Leonard Floyd vs OT Laremy Tunsil
2015: OT Ereck Flowers vs OT Andrus Peat
2014: OLB Anthony Barr vs DL Aaron Donald
2013: CB Dee Milliner vs DL Sheldon Richardson
2012: LB Luke Kuechly vs WR Michael Floyd
2011: OT Tyron Smith vs DT Nick Fairley
2010: RB C. J. Spiller vs DE Brandon Graham
2009: DT B. J. Raji vs OLB Brian Orakpo

Originally Posted by: beast 


Thank you for pulling this up. I heard someone on the radio saying there isn't much difference in the picks when it's top half and only handful of picks. And that you can carry winning momentum into the next season. Something about (Aaron Rodgers also stated something similar) winning the last two games gives you something to build on during the off-season.

I would rather win the final two games than lose.

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musccy
6 years ago
I'm on the fence about tanking vs. winning meaningless games for all the obvious ethical/fandom reasons.

That said, I don't think momentum has ANYTHING to do with it. Roster and scheme turnover, in the Packer's case coaching turnover. The 'Boys and Seahawks were among the hottest teams and laid eggs 7 days after their previous game. 7(plus) months certainly has a lot more fluidity.

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Thank you for pulling this up. I heard someone on the radio saying there isn't much difference in the picks when it's top half and only handful of picks. And that you can carry winning momentum into the next season. Something about (Aaron Rodgers also stated something similar) winning the last two games gives you something to build on during the off-season.

I would rather win the final two games than lose.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I think the difference depends on the draft class and which area you're landing, as every year it changes...

Like 2015 was said to be a surprisingly weak top draft, and didn't matter as much if you had mid-1st or late-1st, as you were getting about the same 2nd round grade player... but 2014 had a much better top class and late-1st was clearly worse than mid-first which had the likes of Odell Beckham, Aaron Donald, Kyle Fuller, Ryan Shazier and Zack Martin fall to them.

I haven't heard this draft talked about as much lately, but about a year ago they would projecting this draft could be one of the deepest drafts for DL/DT/DE guys in a decade... I'm not sure if that's cooled off on that over this college season, or I just been out of the gossip loops of it.

But to get someone like Safety Deionte Thompson, who seems to have great explosion out of his stance, which have reminded some Packers fans of Nick Collins speed, you might need a higher pick, since there seems to be only one guy like that at Safety.

I'm not sure why, but OLB Montez Sweat has been a shockingly consistent pick for the Packers in mock drafts by different groups... we might not have a high enough draft pick for him, but edge Clelin Ferrell seems like he would fit Pettine's system with what he does with his edge guys, like Wilkerson.

Edit: Also the Packers have a (unrealist) shot at the #3 pick overall... GO FOR IT!!! Also because this also effect the other rounds picks as well... so Packers could potentially have the #40 pick instead of #50. Also I just haven't seen the whole winning momentum translate from one season to the next as often as it's talked about...
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Zero2Cool
6 years ago

That said, I don't think momentum has ANYTHING to do with it. Roster and scheme turnover, in the Packer's case coaching turnover. The 'Boys and Seahawks were among the hottest teams and laid eggs 7 days after their previous game. 7(plus) months certainly has a lot more fluidity.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



Players and Coaches disagree with your opinion. That said, each coach and player who said the momentum carries over into the next season also had the same coaching staff. Knowing we're going to have a new coaching staff, how much can you "build" from the final four games of the season of an old coaching staff with a new coaching staff?

If this was the same coaching staff from 2018 to 2019, I'd fall more in line with the players and coaches, but seeing as 2018 coaches aren't gonna be here in 2019 ... what can you really build?
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