Zero2Cool
6 years ago
Do you want someone like this on your team? If it wasn't bad enough the incident happened, he lied about it. You can't trust someone who lies.

You can read about the incident, watch the incident and the body cam.

What do you think? Do you think Kareem Hunt deserves a chance in Green Bay?

https://www.toledoblade.com/sports/ut/2018/11/30/surveillance-video-kareem-hunt-chiefs-hotel-fight-toledo-rocket/stories/20181201028 

http://www.tmz.com/2018/11/30/kc-chiefs-kareem-hunt-attacked-kicked-woman-surveillance-video/ 

https://www.kctv5.com/news/bodycam-footage-from-kareem-hunt-incident-shows-police-tried-to/video_bfab7ed7-f3b9-5276-9763-528d5852c125.html 


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shield4life
6 years ago
I think there's a second side of the story. Why hasn't the victim come forward or answered the NFL when they have approached her. Why haven't the Cleveland police done nothing. Lying is another thing but I guess his young and thought it was his best bet. People make mistakes and learn from it.

With his skill set I'd claim him right away!
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nerdmann
6 years ago
Can he get to the QB? lol

I haven't seen the video, but it doesn't sound like a Ray Rice type situation. From what I heard, the person swung at him first. Dunno. Do due diligence. RB isn't a major position of need. (Not to jinx us, of course.)
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beast
6 years ago

What do you think? Do you think Kareem Hunt deserves a chance in Green Bay?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

From my limited knowledge, absolutely he deserves a second chance.

He's certainly not innocent, but at the same point, this story is now being over blown... physically he shoved her twice and appears to barely kick her (looks more like a shove with a leg and not a strike).

Physically the worst part is the bull rush, which was against males and bowled over multiple people, injuring them... but no one is talking about that... why? Physically it's BY FAR the worst part on video by him and it's being ignored! Why?

This seems to be more about making headlines and selling stories about the "innocent" female victim than it is about Hunt's violence.

Do you want someone like this on your team? If it wasn't bad enough the incident happened, he lied about it. You can't trust someone who lies.

You can read about the incident, watch the incident and the body cam.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Is there body cam video of him talking to the police? Other than the extremely short one with them asking for ID?

Why are you saying he lied? The Chiefs comments on releasing him? That video? Or another video? So far, I haven't seen anything that showed he has lied (this is assuming he could of fallen asleep before the cops got there, as I don't know how long g after they were called and took to interview him, also he seemed to be drunk and therefore could have fallen to sleep quickly)
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Also if the woman's story is true (which let's assume it is for a second), there should be more video of them being outside and Hunt's GF going to them (and maybe attacking them) and then the Hotel receptionist refusing to let them call 911...

So either
1) the Hotel doesn't have cameras set up there,
2) someone (police or hotel management) is doing a cover up
3) Her story has holes in it, which is why the police were unsure.


But if it's true then I'm most pissed off at the hotel receptionist and they should be fired immediately, for not letting a potential victim from calling 911.

Then Hunt for the kick because that's just stupid, and he seemed to almost realize that and didn't follow through.

Well and Hunt for putting himself in that position.
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macbob
6 years ago
Claim him.

If we don't really want him, then we can trade him.
gbguy20
6 years ago

From my limited knowledge, absolutely he deserves a second chance.

He's certainly not innocent, but at the same point, this story is now being over blown... physically he shoved her twice and appears to barely kick her (looks more like a shove with a leg and not a strike).

Physically the worst part is the bull rush, which was against males and bowled over multiple people, injuring them... but no one is talking about that... why? Physically it's BY FAR the worst part on video by him and it's being ignored! Why?

This seems to be more about making headlines and selling stories about the "innocent" female victim than it is about Hunt's violence.

Is there body cam video of him talking to the police? Other than the extremely short one with them asking for ID?

Why are you saying he lied? The Chiefs comments on releasing him? That video? Or another video? So far, I haven't seen anything that showed he has lied (this is assuming he could of fallen asleep before the cops got there, as I don't know how long g after they were called and took to interview him, also he seemed to be drunk and therefore could have fallen to sleep quickly)
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Also if the woman's story is true (which let's assume it is for a second), there should be more video of them being outside and Hunt's GF going to them (and maybe attacking them) and then the Hotel receptionist refusing to let them call 911...

So either
1) the Hotel doesn't have cameras set up there,
2) someone (police or hotel management) is doing a cover up
3) Her story has holes in it, which is why the police were unsure.


But if it's true then I'm most pissed off at the hotel receptionist and they should be fired immediately, for not letting a potential victim from calling 911.

Then Hunt for the kick because that's just stupid, and he seemed to almost realize that and didn't follow through.

Well and Hunt for putting himself in that position.

Originally Posted by: beast 



He lied to the chiefs about it, says so in their statement
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beast
6 years ago

He lied to the chiefs about it, says so in their statement

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 


Except for the fact that you are being "not truthful" in your statements with us... as the Chiefs statement does not (specifically) say that he lied. (It does imply that, but it does not say that).

My point is that you make a very reasonable, but also factually incorrect statement that was not "not truthful", which is the same thing the Chiefs accused Hunt of... you were "not truthful".... but you also didn't lie.

That's not what we would normally think of, but remember, these statements are being written by PR professionals and lawyers who might think of that to help their team save face.

Also as we know, NFL statements aren't always truthful either, such as the Colts suggest Andrew Luck was ready to start week 1 in 2017, depite him missing the entire season.

My point is that until they get a bit more specific this statement basically says nothing other than Chiefs aren't to blame and Hunt is...

It implies that Hunt lied, while legally all it says is that Hunt wasn't as blunt about it as the video, which people (even very good person) rarely are as we're all biased towards ourselves.

This statement is nothing more than a PR cop out


As part of our internal discussions with Kareem, several members of our management team spoke directly to him. Kareem was not truthful in those discussions. The video released today confirms that fact. We are releasing Kareem immediately."


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gbguy20
6 years ago
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Zero2Cool
6 years ago
What statement about Luck?? And holy semantics here
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beast
6 years ago

And holy semantics here

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

I'm simply pointing out that the the Chiefs statement could be true, without Hunt ever lying... the weak legal phrasing they actually used is NOT exclusive to only blunt lying... like that is being assumed.

Also I thought there was some actual proof of him lying with throwing that word around especially with body cameras.


Though I need to revise something from earlier, as maybe it's not a cover up but police not doing as much as they should (or maybe being completely overwhelmed) but the police never saw the security film until after TMZ released...

That just poor form by the Cops. You got the time the place and the man power already there... having all that might making looking at the security film up quick and make writing the report a lot easier.

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