IronMan
15 years ago

I say bring him on. I'm not afraid of him. He's 17-20 for his career, for godsake.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Actually the Broncos are 17-20. And their defense has been terrible. Ranked 30th last year.
Pack93z
15 years ago
Well played Jay and Buss.. I hope they ship your asses to Detroit and then you can play out your days similar to Vandy.. praying for .500.


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Rockmolder
15 years ago
He's a good QB, without a doubt. He was in about the same sitution as GB was last year. He might've had a slightly better O-line, but their FB was their starting RB... until he got injured aswell.

It'll be pretty scary if he comes to the NFC North. Especially the Vikings (Unlikely as it seems to me). He does seem to like to keep his Int numbers close to his TD numbers, though, so we might take advantage of that with our corners. Especially if we can get a pass rush this season.
ILikeThePackers39
15 years ago

He's a good QB, without a doubt. He was in about the same sitution as GB was last year. He might've had a slightly better O-line, but their FB was their starting RB... until he got injured aswell.

It'll be pretty scary if he comes to the NFC North. Especially the Vikings (Unlikely as it seems to me). He does seem to like to keep his Int numbers close to his TD numbers, though, so we might take advantage of that with our corners. Especially if we can get a pass rush this season.

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The Vikings don't have much to give for him, though - I suppose a 3-team deal is possible, but I have to think that Denver will need a viable QB out of this deal somehow, which the Vikes surely do not have to give.

If he comes to the NFC North there'll have to be a 3-team deal, because none of them have anything to give in return as far as a QB. Hell, the Packers are in the best position to make a deal like that out of any of the NFCN teams (and of course the team that needs Cutler the least).


I should add that the only scenario that's scary is if he went to Minny. Detroit and Chicago have other roster issues and he's not going to fix those (plus they'd have to trade a good current player and draft picks, hurting their ability to plug those other holes). He's a damn good QB, but he can't play defense or block for himself. Minny, that would be frightening.
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Pack93z
15 years ago
I don't necessarily think they have to get a QB in return for him.. Leftwich and Garcia are both on the table yet.. either of them could compete with Simms for the starting spot. Actually I can't believe Leftwich is still available.. with all these teams with question marks at the QB.

I think the Broncs will do everything in their power to keep him out of the AFC unless someone like the Jets overpay..

Looking around the league.. the darkhorse in this thing is Carolina.. Peppers and a draft pick for Cutler.. seems logical except in terms of cap numbers.. do the spend happy Broncs have enough space? Or can they make enough space?
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ILikeThePackers39
15 years ago
Good call on Carolina, Z - Denver would certainly love to get a defensive stud out of the deal.

My thinking is that if they're looking to help McDaniels out they'll want a QB - it's one thing to have the Favre situation go down when you've got a capable understudy to step in (and even then, how many fans despise our GM and HC because of it?), but I have to think that a miserable season w/ a second-tier old guy in @ QB would spell D-O-O-M for McDaniels, especially since his hands are so very, very dirty on this one.

But you do make a good point - a team with a real defensive monster could look pretty attractive to the Broncos as well.
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wils0646
15 years ago
Please...to all things holy...do not let this guy get into the NFC North. Even if you think he's over hyped, he's a much better option than any QB outside of Aaron Rodgers.
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago
I'm not sure why so many people are so afraid of the NFC North getting better at the QB position. Did you ever consider that maybe if we are playing better QB's our defense would up its game?

You don't get better by playing weak talentless QB's.


As for the Bronco's getting Peppers, I don't see that one happening. Even if they are using the 3 - 4 scheme that Peppers is craving. I think the Panthers are still set on using Delhomboy at QB. I could be mistaken on that though.
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longtimefan
15 years ago
A Chicago insider was on Espn first take? and said that he knows the Bears will make a play for him..It remains to be seen if it will be enough..He also added that when the rumors started last week the Bears were one of the teams to call Denver
dhazer
15 years ago
John Clayton from Espn says that the Lions and Bears are the 2 front runners right now and maybe throw in cleveland with a 3 way deal. Possible scenario is Detroit gets Cutler, Broncos get Brady Quinn, and Cleveland gets the #1 pick. Hope they have money to pay for 2 top 10 draft picks.
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