Zero2Cool
6 years ago

To think that Brees would have those same numbers with our receivers, our OL, and our coach...that’s just not realistic.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 



Brees is a better passer than Rodgers. He, just like Brady, also always takes what the defense gives them to move the chains. Rodgers has not seemed to do that this season.
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go.pack.go.
6 years ago
I honestly just can’t wait until this season is over & I hope that we fire MM. I think a new coach & new mentality in the locker room would make all of the difference.

Although, I think we should keep Pettine but it probably wouldn’t happen. If we ditch Pettine, I’d like to see a 4-3 defense back in GB.
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musccy
6 years ago
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sschind
6 years ago

He has done nothing but praise Davante & Aaron Jones. Has never thrown either of them under the bus. So I don’t know where you’re getting these ideas from.

And you said that he needs to take the check down immediately on your first post. No, he doesn’t. I don’t want a QB who throws the check down every fucking play.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 




I think what he meant was take the check down immediately when he sees it after going through his progression and not throwing to the check down man immediately on every play.

Hopefully some of your previous options would be open so you never get to the check down. However, when you get to your check down that presumably means none of you other options were open so ignoring it and going back to one of your previous options is foolish.

As Zero says, take what they give you and if all they give you is the last option who cares. A five yard gain is better than an incomplete pass.

What I found funny is that the leader of our offense doesn't even know who is on the field with him. Maybe it happens more than you would think with all the substitutions and all but i can't help but wonder if he throws that ball if he knows its Tonyan instead of Graham?
wpr
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6 years ago

I honestly just can’t wait until this season is over & I hope that we fire MM. I think a new coach & new mentality in the locker room would make all of the difference.

Although, I think we should keep Pettine but it probably wouldn’t happen. If we ditch Pettine, I’d like to see a 4-3 defense back in GB.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 



Outside of somehow miraculously winning the super bowl Mike McCarthy is gone. The mistakes he has made are hurting the team. Maybe no one else will do a better job but it is time to find out.

Let him go to Cleveland and win a super bowl there. That would tell us he is more than just a one trick pony riding on the arm of his qb.
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bboystyle
6 years ago

Brees is a better passer than Rodgers. He, just like Brady, also always takes what the defense gives them to move the chains. Rodgers has not seemed to do that this season.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



no..just no lol.

Taking what the D gives doesnt make u a better passer. Better at reading a defense, sure. Rodgers, unlike brady and brees, plays behind a line where the "pocket" looks like a bunch of scrambles headless chickens running around.
Zero2Cool
6 years ago

no..just no lol.

Taking what the D gives doesnt make u a better passer. Better at reading a defense, sure. Rodgers, unlike brady and brees, plays behind a line where the "pocket" looks like a bunch of scrambles headless chickens running around.

Originally Posted by: bboystyle 



Give Brees and Brady some time of yours and you'll see it too. When they nerd to move the chains, they take what the defense gives them. It's ok to acknowledge other QBs doing something better than Rodgers.
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Cheesey
6 years ago
I’m not worried that Rodgers will throw his WRs under the bus.......he’ll probably short hop it anyway.
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bboystyle
6 years ago

Give Brees and Brady some time of yours and you'll see it too. When they nerd to move the chains, they take what the defense gives them. It's ok to acknowledge other QBs doing something better than Rodgers.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



i do watch both qbs play quite often. I just said they both read defenses better then Rodgers. Doesnt make them better passers at all. Both those qbs have a far superior offensive scheme as well as coaches. Those factor into how a player plays tremendously.
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6 years ago
These comparisons are somewhat irrelevant.
1. Brees and Brady both play in offenses that are less iterative them the Packers, so it’s easier for them to make reads.
2. If you give Rodgers is the same offensive line and protection that the other guys have, you would see dramatically different results
3. If you put either of those quarterbacks on the Packers, they would be in body bags by the fourth game of the year.
Not withstanding any of the foregoing, 12 needs to play better and make better choices.
Now, to those of us who would like to see more up-tempo, the reason it doesn’t happen is because of the Packer offense is more iterative. Rodgers and the younger wideouts are not on the same page even from the huddle. Accordingly they’re less likely to be on the same page and a two minute/up-tempo offense.
Other teams can play first and second-year players rather seamlessly, and we can’t seem to do that, which is extremely frustrating.
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