Packers' "cheap' approach with T.J. Lang was smart

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

Do you agree?

A year and a half ago, the Packers watched as longtime starting guard T.J. Lang walked away to a division rival, the Lions, taking more money from Detroit than Green Bay was willing to pay. At the time, the Packers were criticized for that move. That criticism was wrong. The Lions have placed Lang on [more]

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beast
Select Member

6 years ago

Yeah because they paid full price and (so far) have only gotten him 60% of the games, and last year there were times he was playing, but clearly he wasn't 95% but fighting and on the field. He got overpaid for the Lions years (under paid other years), just like Cobb has been getting overpaid by the Packers.

Veteran contracts are a gamble... Packers won the Lang gamble.

Plus they got a 4th round comp pick out of it... which was used on WR J'Mon Moore (who's still developing, but has reminded people of Adams movement skill wise, thought a bust as far as catching the ball, so the jury is still out if that's a win or a push).

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

We have complained a lot about players not being retained. For the most part, it has always worked out. The two that sting the most are Casey Hayward and Micah Hyde. I mean, I get WHY we didn't re-sign them, but to see them flourish elsewhere, and then we used draft picks to replace them? We could have used those draft picks else where.

I'm sure glad I'm not NFL General Manager, that's for damn sure.

wpr
Preferred Member

6 years ago

I can't say that GB "Always win" when they don't resign a vet player. "Usually wins" is probably more accurate. NFL players are probably more disposable than in any of the major 4 professional sports. After 4 years in the trenches the odds are pretty slim that players will still be at their peak abilities when they finish their 2nd contract.

That's why so many people support Uncle Teddy's lack of desire to invest in FAs. I contend there are a few who will be worthwhile and the better GMs can tell who still has something left in the tank and who has already started their decline. There is risk in everything in life. If you want to have a team that will compete late into the playoffs you have to be willing to take a chance once in a while.

That's one of the things I enjoy about Gute, he takes a chance. It didn't work out with Wilkerson but that don't mean you should never try.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

I can't say that GB "Always win" when they don't resign a vet player. "Usually wins" is probably more accurate.

Originally Posted by: wpr

I don't think any one in this topic has said that they always win when they don't re-sign a player. I did read "For the most part, it has always worked out." which I feel falls more into the "usually wins" category. 😝

wpr
Preferred Member

6 years ago

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Fine. Waffle if you must. "Always works out" means just what it says despite putting a wimpy disclaimer in front. But if that is what you want so be it. [zipmouth]

gbguy20
Veteran Member

6 years ago

Think of the players we wouldn't have been able to afford if we had langs deal on the books right now. We have no cap space as is. Our team would look quite a bit different with just that one moe contract.

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Cheesey
Preferred Member

6 years ago

So....Lang is injured. Would he have been injured if he had still been in Green Bay? Who knows.
To say they dodged a bullet isn’t realistic. If a player leaves and then sucks on the field because their talent level dropped, then you can say we made the right move and brag about it.
Maybe being in Detroit and playing all the time on fake grass caused his problems and injuries.
Just my humble opinion of course.

sschind
Senior Member

6 years ago

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

Yup, happens all the time. A player gets injured and fans say glad we didn't sign him or draft him or I'm glad we let him go. I'm sure plenty of fans said the same about Dez Bryant. Its not like injuries are predestined and are going to happen anyway. Any 1 thing can change whether an injury happens or not.

beast
Select Member

6 years ago

#10

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

Originally Posted by: sschind

Are you also willing the same in reverse?

So Justin Harrell wasn't a bad pick because no one could predicted his weight room injury?

And Lang was getting bang up every single year, so the idea you your can't predict he would get banged up isn't accurate... you know Lang will, the only question is how bad will it be. Same with Harrell, Matthews, Perry and Bulaga etc.

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