nerdmann
6 years ago
Check it out man. Fack has FOUR sacks this year, compared to the COMBINED four of Matthews and Perry.

Weird, right?

Granted Matthews was robbed of a couple in early games. Wanna know the freakiest part? The Packers are THIRD IN THE LEAGUE in the adjusted stat of sacks "per play." Per defensive play. It was in one of these podcasts. I think it was Bukowski on Locked On Packers.

Not bad, and I attribute that to Pettine.
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beast
6 years ago

Not bad, and I attribute that to Pettine.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Yes attribute BOTH the good and the bad to Pettine, because in his system stats of the starting OLB always seem to go down while the rest of the guys go up.

Thus it's much harder for average fans to actually grade edge rushers in this system and just because their numbers are down doesn't nessary mean they're having a down year.
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nerdmann
6 years ago

Yes attribute BOTH the good and the bad to Pettine, because in his system stats of the starting OLB always seem to go down while the rest of the guys go up.

Thus it's much harder for average fans to actually grade edge rushers in this system and just because their numbers are down doesn't nessary mean they're having a down year.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Agreed, in a normal system, Fack would be on pace for double digit sacks. 👍
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6 years ago
He gets man handled on numerous run, but I will grant you he tries
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DoddPower
6 years ago

He gets man handled on numerous run, but I will grant you he tries

Originally Posted by: KRK 



Yeah, I still haven't changed my opinion that he's nothing more than a #4 or 5 OLB/pass rush specialist on a championship-caliber defense. But I'm glad he's showing some usefulness. In no way should he come close to being the 3-4th best pass rusher on a team though. He's made a few splash plays, but many other plays have been horrible. If all his plays were averaged, I'm guessing the results would be average at best, and likely below average overall. People love sacks, but I prefer consistent pressure and edge setting.
nerdmann
6 years ago

Yeah, I still haven't changed my opinion that he's nothing more than a #4 or 5 OLB/pass rush specialist on a championship-caliber defense. But I'm glad he's showing some usefulness. In no way should he come close to being the 3-4th best pass rusher on a team though. He's made a few splash plays, but many other plays have been horrible. If all his plays were averaged, I'm guessing the results would be average at best, and likely below average overall. People love sacks, but I prefer consistent pressure and edge setting.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



I think coverage is his best skill.
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beast
6 years ago

I think coverage is his best skill.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I think Fackrell best skill is he's versatility... he's a jack of all trade, king of nothing. Which MIGHT fit perfectly in Pettine's system of trying to confuse the offense about which guy is dropping into coverage vs which guy is rushing the passer so Pettine can play a chess match. But I think Fackrell is best sited for more traditional OLB (ie 4-3 OLB) more than blitzer.

Also Fackrell has 4 sacks, but 3 of them were against the Bills who don't have much at OT... so some OT probably just couldn't handle his long reach.
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gbguy20
6 years ago
Can't stand the way people use the term jack of all trades here. Fackrell sucks at everything he does. He is not a jack of all trades just because he still does it. That term implies he is decent to good at everything. He is not.
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nerdmann
6 years ago

Can't stand the way people use the term jack of all trades here. Fackrell sucks at everything he does. He is not a jack of all trades just because he still does it. That term implies he is decent to good at everything. He is not.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



Brad Jones and Carl Bradford sucked at everything. Fackrell is better than them.
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6 years ago

Brad Jones and Carl Bradford sucked at everything. Fackrell is better than them.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



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