Fackrell=Matthews+Perry· Page 2

beast
Select Member

6 years ago

Can't stand the way people use the term jack of all trades here. Fackrell sucks at everything he does. He is not a jack of all trades just because he still does it. That term implies he is decent to good at everything. He is not.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20

So you're accusing me of misusing a phrase, by misusing a phrase of your own? Way to be a hypocrite!

If you "can't stand" other people's opinions then get outta the opinions forums! Fackrell is extrmemely well rounded... and if you "can't stand" me calling him "jack of all trades" then you got first world problems, because he's a jack of all trades and king of none!

And yes I understand what that phrase means and yes I'm saying he's decent at (almost) everything very good (almost) at nothing. Fackrell power rush game will probably always suck due to his length and lack of great strength, but he's very good at getting off of blocks in contain to a side because of that length.

Rockmolder
Honored Member

6 years ago

#12

I think Fackrell best skill is he's versatility... he's a jack of all trade, king of nothing. Which MIGHT fit perfectly in Pettine's system of trying to confuse the offense about which guy is dropping into coverage vs which guy is rushing the passer so Pettine can play a chess match. But I think Fackrell is best sited for more traditional OLB (ie 4-3 OLB) more than blitzer.

Also Fackrell has 4 sacks, but 3 of them were against the Bills who don't have much at OT... so some OT probably just couldn't handle his long reach.

Originally Posted by: beast

I think you're spot on. I remember him coming into the draft process, drawing comparisons to Connor Barwin on one side... Who's much faster than him and a guy like Paul Kruger on the other side... Who's much stronger than him.

He just doesn't stand out in any way, shape or form. During the pre-draft process, people raved about his athletic skill, but he showed little of that at the combine.

His production in college usually came against sub-par competition. Very much in line with him getting his sacks against Buffalo.

He's a decent role player, but less so than I think the Packers hoped when they drafted him.

StoicFire
Member

6 years ago

#13

Fackrell's sack today was a good one, earned one-on-one against the LT. He had a couple of nice plays in coverage too.

But I mostly wanted to mention here how well I think Clay Matthews played today. It wasn't exceptional, but it was quietly solid. He had a couple pressures where he got very close to getting a sack, but just didn't quite get home. He got the half sack with Kenny Clark on a nice inside move. However, I don't think the stats tell the full story on his performance. On Dean Lowry's sack the TE had to choose between blocking Dean or Clay and he chose Clay. On Raven Greene's sack the TE had to choose between Raven and Clay and he chose Clay. I just wanted to put it out there that he's still fairly effective even if the numbers aren't there.

As for Perry, I hope he's OK. It is really unfortunate how much his career has been effected by injuries.

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nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

#14

Originally Posted by: StoicFire

Props to Montravius for showing something too.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

wpr
Preferred Member

6 years ago

#15

So exactly why do we hate Fackrell?

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

#16

So exactly why do we hate Fackrell?

Originally Posted by: wpr

Somebody said Poppinga gave him some advice? Dude's taken a step.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

rabidgopher04
Member

6 years ago

#17

Fackrell is looking good. If he is consistent, it's nice to have 2 stud MLBs finally.

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GPG241001
Rookie

6 years ago

#18

I have no criticism of the D tonight. This offense is atrocious.

go.pack.go.
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#19

I have no criticism of the D tonight. This offense is atrocious.

Originally Posted by: GPG241001

Agreed. They played especially well considering all of the injuries on D. Kept giving the offense chances to run away with it but it didn’t happen.

beast
Select Member

6 years ago

#20

I have no criticism of the D tonight. This offense is atrocious.

Originally Posted by: GPG241001

The D had some troubles... but a lot of it is excusable, when you consider all their injuries and/or guys they've lost! I mean we're playing rookie UDFA in a main role and even saw what I'm not sure, but I thought I might of saw the newest picked-up Safety on the field!

But either via trade/release/injuries, the Packers didn't finish the game with Haha, Whitehead, King, Breeland, Brice, Greene, Perry, Daniels or Clark (so basically the defense finished the games without 7 of their normal starters... at least if you assume Whitehead or Josh Jones are in the dime as a starter).

One criticism I do have though is that first huge long run by the Seahawks, is completely and totally on Josh Jones diving in on the play, trying to beat Matthews to the tackle, when he seems to freaking have outside containment as his assignment and he complete gave that up, trying to 'stat whore' and get in on the action! ... they completely had the play contained, as long the contain guy doesn't over play his hand... and Jones not only over plays it... he COMPLETELY over plays it!

Now that was only one single play... but since it was such a huge play and got them momentum, it really pissed me off... also pissed me off because it wasn't a mistake, he purposely gave it up being greedy, trying to make the huge play himself, when the team had it wrapped up. Again, only one play...

The offense MIGHT have something, in MVS deep, Adams mid level and Jones short... that's if MM/Rodgers are willing to hit/connect with Jones short. Clearly it didn't happen this game... but if they learn from it going forward. Of course, Vikings might be the worse team to try to get it going against.

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