DoddPower
6 years ago

Should the Green Bay Packers get rid of head coach Mike McCarthy? The answer may not be that simple. Any time a team with playoff aspirations starts off slow, there is usually something or someone to blame.Sometimes the answers are as simple as injuries to a key player or players, other times the answer is

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Interesting perspectives. As with any move, it's not as simple as making it. The Packers also have to make the right decisions afterwards, or things could end up even worse. Although, I don't think the Packers will ever win another Super Bowl with McCarthy unless there is a huge talent infusion which is highly unlikely. At that point, it may be worth trying something before Rodgers retires.
gbguy20
6 years ago
They have to fucking try. Otherwise I am watching lebron
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buckeyepackfan
6 years ago

They have to fucking try. Otherwise I am watching lebron

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



Hey, your choice.

Everbody is on love with all these new, young coaches who are brining the College game to the NFL.
Lets just see who is stsnding at the end of the year.

Murphy blew it after last season.

He did a half-assed restructure.

You can hate on McCarthy all you want, not going to do any good.

Go to FB, you will have plenty of company.
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hardrocker950
6 years ago
It seems like the offensive system has been pretty much the same for years now, and other teams have figured it out. Being a fan looking from the outside, I can usually guess the play before the ball is snapped - so it isn't a surprise to me when the opposing defense has a solution to shutting a play down.

I'm not trying to hate on Mike, but I just feel that his tenure coaching in GB has run it's course. In today's NFL you just don't see a lot of coaches with a team for more than a few years because of what we have been experiencing - stagnant schemes and predictability.
Porforis
6 years ago

It seems like the offensive system has been pretty much the same for years now, and other teams have figured it out. Being a fan looking from the outside, I can usually guess the play before the ball is snapped - so it isn't a surprise to me when the opposing defense has a solution to shutting a play down.

Originally Posted by: hardrocker950 



Adding to this, I can't remember the last time we've gotten defenders to jump offsides with the hard count. This year and last year in particular it's been incredibly infrequent, and that was a notable part of our offense for years that gave us free deep shots.
Nonstopdrivel
6 years ago
Well, when the defense knows beyond a shadow of a doubt that you're not going to snap the ball until you've wound the clock down under five seconds, why would they feel the slightest impetus to jump early? That trick only works if you're unpredictable.
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Zero2Cool
6 years ago

Well, when the defense knows beyond a shadow of a doubt that you're not going to snap the ball until you've wound the clock down under five seconds, why would they feel the slightest impetus to jump early? That trick only works if you're unpredictable.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



A lot of other teams do the same thing. The Rams, they do it, yet they still put up big numbers.
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Nonstopdrivel
6 years ago
I have watched several Rams games this year. There are surprising number of plays on which they are lined up and set with 30 seconds left on the clock (we saw a couple of those against the Packers alone), and even more plays on which they've snapped the ball with 10 or 15 or 20 seconds left on the clock. Sure, they often run the clock down to single digits too, but nowhere as often as the Packers do. I doubt it would take two hands to count the number of plays this entire season in which Green Bay had more than 0:09 on the clock when they snapped the ball.
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Zero2Cool
6 years ago

I have watched several Rams games this year. There are surprising number of plays on which they are lined up and set with 30 seconds left on the clock (we saw a couple of those against the Packers alone), and even more plays on which they've snapped the ball with 10 or 15 or 20 seconds left on the clock. Sure, they often run the clock down to single digits too, but nowhere as often as the Packers do. I doubt it would take two hands to count the number of plays this entire season in which Green Bay had more than 0:09 on the clock when they snapped the ball.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



If you're going to say the Packers run the clock down to under 3 seconds 90% of the time and other teams 80% of the time, I can get behind that. Because it matches what I've observed. If you're saying the margin is vastly greater, then you are not watching many full games.
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buckeyepackfan
6 years ago
Murphy needed to let Mike go BEFORE the season started.


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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
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beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : ok I stand corrected
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (23-Dec) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (23-Dec) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
beast (23-Dec) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games
beast (23-Dec) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality
beast (23-Dec) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs
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