It's hard to verify, but reading between the lines, I do feel there are some growing issues with AR-MM, accountability, etc. I'm not vehemently opposed to a change, I just feel focusing on that issue on the team is like being worried about bad cranberry sauce at Thanksgiving when you burned the turkey.

I stole this idea from Ketchman, but I do agree if Mike McCarthy is fired, he's on a flight to Cleveland that day landing on his feet.

Originally Posted by: musccy 

He's an idiot because he ran into the kicker and the referee made a mistake in the call?

Name calling. Wow.
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Its a fact theres issues between rodgers and mm. Its been printed and noted by the media only for those two to take the high road and call it creative differences or some other nice way of putting it. Been like the for years. Rodgers is tired of Mike McCarthy as much as we are

Originally Posted by: bboystyle 

Rodgers is pulling a Bert Favor power play.

It's like Ellerson was saying on the post game show. The reason the offense is disjointed is because you have TWO play callers. We are all aware of Aaron's propensity.

Mike's problem is he's afraid to stand up to Rodgers or reign him in. It goes along with his overall lack of understanding of sports psychology. Not only can't he get his team in the right mindset, he can't (or won't) control the ego of his diva star QB.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

I don’t see Rodgers as the problem. He’s trying to make plays, and the O-line can’t give him time.
Give Aaron Rodgers time, and he will get it done.
Look at the time Brady had? Give that same protection to Rodgers, and he would kill the defense.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 

This is true. But i dont fault rodgers on this one. Hes been in the same system since he started. Theres been little to no change since and the offense is easy to read to the point fans can call the plays at the comfort of their couch. I honestly dont know why we rehired philbin for. He brings nothing new and im sure Mike McCarthy has the final saying/power on calls.

We need to go back to the 2007 offense where we were running a true WCO with quit slants and out routes....u know the same offense brady and beli run that wins them games...

Originally Posted by: bboystyle 

There's a lot more to calling plays than run/pass. I know you know this, but I don't think you're taking into account blocking schemes or how you shift help to Spriggs when Bulaga is down. Adjustments such as how they started throwing quicker routes to Adams after the first few drives when he was getting doubled. Yesterday was the first time I'm aware of that they ran a 4 TE set. There's sequencing of plays to set up a defense. Truthfully, we as fans don't know a lot of what goes into play calling, one of the big reasons is the freedom Aaron Rodgers has at the line.

It's why I mentioned in a previous message you should look at talent on the roster and growth. Jones has improved in the passing game, MVS clearly has added a new element. Adams is a key WR in the league. There's growth we're seeing on a roster that IMO is underpowered. Yet again, this is not meant as an apology for MM, but simply saying "MM is bad, Reid would do better" is an unfair oversimplification, IMO

Originally Posted by: musccy 

YES.
What was the guys JOB? DONT HIT THE KICKER!!!
So what did he do?
HIT THE KICKER!
Did the ref blow the call? I’m not so sure of that. Watching the replay, he DID hit the kickers plant leg.
Did the Packer player cause the penalty? YES.
Your team is set up to get great field position, and your defense made a great stop, and you put your team against the wall because of a boneheaded play.
So I got angry. I called the guy an idiot.
Sue me.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 

Rodgers is pulling a Bert Favor power play.

It's like Ellerson was saying on the post game show. The reason the offense is disjointed is because you have TWO play callers. We are all aware of Aaron's propensity.

Mike's problem is he's afraid to stand up to Rodgers or reign him in. It goes along with his overall lack of understanding of sports psychology. Not only can't he get his team in the right mindset, he can't (or won't) control the ego of his diva star QB.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann