beast
6 years ago

Jackson's contract is $$11 cap hit in 2018 and $10 cap hit in 2019.

Packers have just over $3 million in cap space for 2018 and almost $40 million for 2019.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



So $40 million next year, minus
- $10 million for Jackson's potential contract
- $4 million gone from the ERFAs (as the bottom of this list)
- $6 million gone from 2019 Draft picks (a guessed number... might be slightly higher or lower)
- $5 million teams like the save for signing injury replacements during the season

Left with $15 million for FA next year... with all the following unsigned.

Clay Matthews OLB 33 GB TBD $13,200,000 UFA -
Randall Cobb WR 29 GB TBD $10,000,000 UFA -
Muhammad Wilkerson DE 30 GB TBD $5,000,000 UFA -
Marcedes Lewis TE 35 GB TBD $2,100,000 UFA -
HaHa Clinton-Dix FS 26 GB TBD $2,084,625 UFA -
Lance Kendricks TE 31 GB TBD $2,000,000 UFA -
Byron Bell RT 30 GB TBD $1,600,000 UFA -
Davon House CB 30 GB TBD $1,005,000 UFA -
Bashaud Breeland CB 27 GB TBD $880,000 UFA Market Value
Korey Toomer ILB 30 GB TBD $790,000 UFA -
Ty Montgomery RB 26 GB TBD $737,199 UFA -
Jake Ryan ILB 27 GB TBD $684,170 UFA -
Geronimo Allison WR 25 GB TBD $630,000 RFA -


4 million under here, assuming the Packers keep the ERFA around.
Lucas Patrick G 26 GB TBD $555,000 ERFA -
Jermaine Whitehead FS 26 GB TBD $555,000 ERFA -
Justin McCray G 27 GB TBD $555,000 ERFA -
Kentrell Brice S 25 GB TBD $540,667 RFA -
Reggie Gilbert DE 26 GB TBD $495,000 ERFA -
Robert Tonyan Jr. WR 25 GB TBD $480,000 ERFA -
Jake Kumerov WR 27 GB TBD $480,000 ERFA -
Tyler Lancaster DT 24 GB TBD $480,000 ERFA
nerdmann
6 years ago

So $40 million next year, minus
- $10 million for Jackson's potential contract
- $4 million gone from the ERFAs (as the bottom of this list)
- $6 million gone from 2019 Draft picks (a guessed number... might be slightly higher or lower)
- $5 million teams like the save for signing injury replacements during the season

Left with $15 million for FA next year... with all the following unsigned.

Clay Matthews OLB 33 GB TBD $13,200,000 UFA -
Randall Cobb WR 29 GB TBD $10,000,000 UFA -
Muhammad Wilkerson DE 30 GB TBD $5,000,000 UFA -
Marcedes Lewis TE 35 GB TBD $2,100,000 UFA -
HaHa Clinton-Dix FS 26 GB TBD $2,084,625 UFA -
Lance Kendricks TE 31 GB TBD $2,000,000 UFA -
Byron Bell RT 30 GB TBD $1,600,000 UFA -
Davon House CB 30 GB TBD $1,005,000 UFA -
Bashaud Breeland CB 27 GB TBD $880,000 UFA Market Value
Korey Toomer ILB 30 GB TBD $790,000 UFA -
Ty Montgomery RB 26 GB TBD $737,199 UFA -
Jake Ryan ILB 27 GB TBD $684,170 UFA -
Geronimo Allison WR 25 GB TBD $630,000 RFA -


4 million under here, assuming the Packers keep the ERFA around.
Lucas Patrick G 26 GB TBD $555,000 ERFA -
Jermaine Whitehead FS 26 GB TBD $555,000 ERFA -
Justin McCray G 27 GB TBD $555,000 ERFA -
Kentrell Brice S 25 GB TBD $540,667 RFA -
Reggie Gilbert DE 26 GB TBD $495,000 ERFA -
Robert Tonyan Jr. WR 25 GB TBD $480,000 ERFA -
Jake Kumerov WR 27 GB TBD $480,000 ERFA -
Tyler Lancaster DT 24 GB TBD $480,000 ERFA

Originally Posted by: beast 



I guess if you want to triage the situation an edge rusher would be a better investment.
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gbguy20
6 years ago
Cobb and Allison are both gone next year. Same with clay and more than likely Dix. If there wasn't enough turnover this year, next year will be another completely different team. Cute has his work cut out for him. Lots of holes to fill without any money to work with. I really see us keeping maybe only 2 guys from that top list.
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beast
6 years ago
If you could get him for a 5th (which I strongly doubt) then I still say pull the trigger...

Because if you need/want to... you could also open up some cap space next year by cutting someone this offseason by cutting

Jackson ($10 million)
Daniels ($8.5 million)
Bakhtiari ($7.8 million)
Bulaga ($6.75 million)
Graham ($5.33 million)

Of course, really only the top two seem like reasonable options (if Daniels doesn't pick it back up).
Zero2Cool
6 years ago

Cobb and Allison are both gone next year. Same with clay and more than likely Dix. If there wasn't enough turnover this year, next year will be another completely different team. Cute has his work cut out for him. Lots of holes to fill without any money to work with. I really see us keeping maybe only 2 guys from that top list.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



Geronimo Allison is probably a safe bet to be re-signed. I expect something like 3 years $8 million contract or something similar. Nothing breaking the bank. He's proved to be valuable and I don't think Randall Cobb returns.

If they landed DeSean Jackson, they could also redo his contract and free up cap space to so his salary isn't locked in.
gotarace
6 years ago
Trade even up for Cobb. Same money and Jackson brings much more to the Plate.
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gbguy20
6 years ago

Geronimo Allison is probably a safe bet to be re-signed. I expect something like 3 years $8 million contract or something similar. Nothing breaking the bank. He's proved to be valuable and I don't think Randall Cobb returns.

If they landed DeSean Jackson, they could also redo his contract and free up cap space to so his salary isn't locked in.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I'm betting Allison signs elsewhere for much more than we are willing to sign him for. And that team will regret it by week 4.
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beast
6 years ago

Geronimo Allison is probably a safe bet to be re-signed. I expect something like 3 years $8 million contract or something similar. Nothing breaking the bank. He's proved to be valuable and I don't think Randall Cobb returns.

If they landed DeSean Jackson, they could also redo his contract and free up cap space to so his salary isn't locked in.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Allison will be an RFA which means usually means they'll either tender him for one year or let him go in FA to another team (like they did with LB Joe Thomas instead of getting him a tender). I assume it will be Original round tender, or if they feel comfortable with the young WRs, maybe no tender.

First-round tenders are valued at $4.149 million in 2018.
Second-round tenders are $2.914 million.
Original-round and low-level tenders are $1.907 million.

Trade even up for Cobb. Same money and Jackson brings much more to the Plate.

Originally Posted by: gotarace 

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