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warhawk
6 years ago
I get the impression that Arod and the Packers simply don't know yet. I don't see it as a having anything to do with holding out on the Vikings or anything other than if he's good enough to go on Sunday he will. It's encouraging that Aaron Rodgers says it's getting a little better every day....on the other hand he hasn't practiced yet.
So I totally get that at this point it's probably a toss up whether he's ready Sunday or not. It does appear that they haven't found anything that would cause him to be out long term so I'm thankful for that. After watching the replay I was thinking "here we go again".
It sucks that it's the Vikes because we need at least a split with them to win the North but there will still be 14 more games so that really can't enter into what they finally decide.



"The train is leaving the station."
Zero2Cool
6 years ago

I get the impression that Arod and the Packers simply don't know yet. I don't see it as a having anything to do with holding out on the Vikings or anything other than if he's good enough to go on Sunday he will. It's encouraging that Aaron Rodgers says it's getting a little better every day....on the other hand he hasn't practiced yet.
So I totally get that at this point it's probably a toss up whether he's ready Sunday or not. It does appear that they haven't found anything that would cause him to be out long term so I'm thankful for that. After watching the replay I was thinking "here we go again".
It sucks that it's the Vikes because we need at least a split with them to win the North but there will still be 14 more games so that really can't enter into what they finally decide.

Originally Posted by: warhawk 



Maybe the Jedi mind games have some effect?


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6 years ago

I get the impression that Arod and the Packers simply don't know yet. I don't see it as a having anything to do with holding out on the Vikings or anything other than if he's good enough to go on Sunday he will. It's encouraging that Aaron Rodgers says it's getting a little better every day....on the other hand he hasn't practiced yet.
So I totally get that at this point it's probably a toss up whether he's ready Sunday or not. It does appear that they haven't found anything that would cause him to be out long term so I'm thankful for that. After watching the replay I was thinking "here we go again".
It sucks that it's the Vikes because we need at least a split with them to win the North but there will still be 14 more games so that really can't enter into what they finally decide.


Originally Posted by: warhawk 



What?? You are not a conspiracy theorist? Don't you think GB is intentionally withholding valuable information in order to confound and confuse the vikies? I mean, Minny has to be perplexed not knowing who to prepare for. Surely they HAVE to prepare for both a HoF type QB along with a run of the mill average-mediocre calibre QB. (who might get better "some day".) They have to be losing sleep every night over this quandary they are in. 😉
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Zero2Cool
6 years ago

What?? You are not a conspiracy theorist? Don't you think GB is intentionally withholding valuable information in order to confound and confuse the vikies? I mean, Minny has to be perplexed not knowing who to prepare for. Surely they HAVE to prepare for both a HoF type QB along with a run of the mill average-mediocre calibre QB. (who might get better "some day".) They have to be losing sleep every night over this quandary they are in. 😉

Originally Posted by: wpr 



They know they are going to face Aaron Rodgers, but the cerebral quick passing Rodgers or the extending play Rodgers? That sounds small, but it's pretty huge when game planning. To exaggerate the importance, think of it as planning for Michael Vick vs Eli Manning. One stands in the pocket, the other makes plays outside of the pocket. This isn't something that's going to kill the Vikings, but for game planning, it absolutely matters. Do you play press to stop quick passes and then to find out he can roll out? Do you play soft knowing your defense is going to get push from the middle or the edge or a blitz and try to jump a pass?

There's a lot they game plan for. (not that you didn't know already, but just for anyone who may not be cognizant)
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Cheesey
6 years ago
I can see both sides of this. To me, the Vikings can spend about 10 minutes to prepare for Kizer. (Half of which could be used for the laugh track) and the rest of their time on Rodgers.
I’m pretty sure Aaron Rodgers won’t be very mobile, so they can plan for that.
The real planning better be by the Packers IF Rodgers is in fact playing, to make sure he can get rid of the ball FAST, so he doesn’t get KILLED!
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sschind
6 years ago

What?? You are not a conspiracy theorist? Don't you think GB is intentionally withholding valuable information in order to confound and confuse the vikies? I mean, Minny has to be perplexed not knowing who to prepare for. Surely they HAVE to prepare for both a HoF type QB along with a run of the mill average-mediocre calibre QB. (who might get better "some day".) They have to be losing sleep every night over this quandary they are in. 😉

Originally Posted by: wpr 



I'm sure they are preparing for both. They are giving 99% of their preparation towards facing Rodgers and the other 1% trying to decide who should cater the victory dinner if its Kizer.

Zero2Cool
6 years ago

I can see both sides of this. To me, the Vikings can spend about 10 minutes to prepare for Kizer. (Half of which could be used for the laugh track) and the rest of their time on Rodgers.
I’m pretty sure Aaron Rodgers won’t be very mobile, so they can plan for that.
The real planning better be by the Packers IF Rodgers is in fact playing, to make sure he can get rid of the ball FAST, so he doesn’t get KILLED!

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



They are absolutely not preparing for DeShonne Kizer. He has not shown that he can beat you. I would bet your hairline on line that!

What they are preparing to do is (speculation here) get pressure up the middle. If they get pressure up the middle and Rodgers burns them, they will gauge how mobility. Oh shit he's moving REALLY good! We need to adjust our plan to the mobile plan. If they see him hobbling around, they will have their corners press and play tighter with the same pressure up the middle. I say up the middle because I believe the Guards are the weak spot vs their strength on the DL. Rodgers is very capable of stepping up into a pocket and murdering you if you try to collapse the pocket from the outside.

Does the injury to Rodgers leg hurt the Packers ore Vikings more? I think the Vikings, only marginally because once they see Rodgers can move just fine vs can't move just fine, they will switch their game plan.

What I'm saying is the first quarter is going to be the deciding factor in how the Vikings play quarters 2, 3 and 4.

The Packers should play possum a little bit. Keep Rodgers out from practicing to give the illusion he can't scramble at all. Then the offense use a quick passing game over and over again until you see the defense open up and then on a crucial third down Rodgers scrambles to get the first down to seal the win!

Okay, I drifted off into dream land there, but I hope I gave my point of view adequately. Even though it might be wrong.
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Cheesey
6 years ago
Don’t worry Zero.....if your point of view is wrong I’m sure SOMEONE will be sure to point it out!😂 🤣 😂
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Bigbyfan
6 years ago
I'm 100% the Vikings would rather go against Kizer totally unprepared opposed to playing against Rodgers with a week's worth of preparation.
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Smokey
6 years ago

I'm 100% the Vikings would rather go against Kizer totally unprepared opposed to playing against Rodgers with a week's worth of preparation.

Originally Posted by: Bigbyfan 



I too would prefer to see Rodgers lead the Packers against the Vikings on Sunday. However the exact extent of Rodgers injury is a highly guarded secret. In addition, he did not practice on Wednesday or Thursday. Fridays practice may/may not be the telling factor that points to weather #12 will play.

Rodgers may be willing to play with a less than game ready left knee, but the question remains weather McCarthy would be willing to risk more injury to GB's star player to gain a win. IMO, Rodgers injury while not season ending, is bad enough to not risk his and the Packers future by playing him this week.
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