Forbes: Green Bay Packers Are Somewhere Between Reloading And Rebuilding

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

This is pretty fascinating to read.

For so many years, things were oh, so easy, for LeRoy Butler’s Green Bay Packers.

From 1993-’98, Green Bay went to the playoffs six straight times. The Packers won the 1996 Super Bowl, lost the Super Bowl in 1997, played in three NFC title games and went 66-30 in that time (.688).

“We had years where we were just killed people,” Butler, a standout safety from 1990-2001, said on Friday. “We weren’t just good. We were dominant.”

Like many great teams, though, those Packers got old in a hurry. General manager Ron Wolf had a few disappointing drafts. And despite the presence of Hall of Fame quarterback Brett Favre, Green Bay missed the postseason in both 1999 and 2000.

Sound familiar?

The Packers of today are on an eerily similar path. And as Green Bay readies for its season-opener Sunday night against Chicago, the parallels between these Packers and those of nearly two decades ago are fascinating.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robreischel/2018/09/08/the-green-bay-packers-are-somewhere-between-reloading-and-rebuilding/#4d9c5c217e12

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

The article points out the obvious, yet something we seem to all gloss over. Picking in top half of the draft yields better players than bottom half. Rob says Ron Wolf regained his magic in 2000 or so, which by no coincidence is when the Packers were picking higher in every round.

Brian G's draft is probably going to be good, because he had higher round pick selections. Just like Ron Wolf did when he took over the Packers, and then his "magic" coming back after the Packers were picking top half again. Same story goes for Ted Thompson.

Cheesey
Preferred Member

6 years ago

Great point Kevin!
Getting to draft higher usually gives you a better chance of getting better players. That was one good thing about last season. We were not picking 28-30 in the 1st round.
Plus it should give you an easier schedule for the next season.

nerdmann
Premier Member

6 years ago

Aaron has crawled up Gute's butt. He got Ted fired last year and this year if they don't make a convincing case, he will get Mike fired. Pettine will be Aaron's next HC.

Just seems like some weird shit going on.

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blueleopard
Member

6 years ago

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Where do you get off on your horseshit? Aaron Rodgers' job is to play football well, and get paid well while doing it. I'd like to think our QB is a genuine guy--not some self-righteous prick out to get people fired like you're making him out to be.

Football is too mentally and physically draining to be caught up in this conspiracy nonsense.

Even a self-centered asshole would've demanded a trade. Rodgers hasn't.

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