Report: Rodgers, Packers have made "measurable progress' in contract talks· Page 2

Cheesey
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6 years ago

#11

Would you rather he threw 15 more interceptions, like Favre would do???

wpr
Preferred Member

6 years ago

#12

I mean, there's instances where it's good to hang onto it more than 3 seconds. But fundamentally, those are exceptions to the rule. That's why I say, average it out over the season, AND add in some incentives for HFA, playoff wins and SB.

Give something, to get something.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

I guess you didn't like the QB rating in post #2 because it's a few years old. Here's one that is current:

Leaders 
Rank	Player	               Rate	        Years	
1	Aaron Rodgers	      103.8	        2005-2017	
2	Russell Wilson	      98.8	        2012-2017	
3	Tom Brady	          97.6	        2000-2017	
4	Tony Romo	          97.1	        2004-2016	
5	Steve Young+	      96.8	        1985-1999	
6	Drew Brees	          96.7	        2001-2017	
7	Peyton Manning	      96.5	        1998-2015	
8	Philip Rivers	      94.8	        2004-2017	
9	Ben Roethlisberger    94.0	        2004-2017	
10	Kirk Cousins	      93.7	        2012-2017	
10  Kurt Warner+	      93.7	        1998-2009

So why do teams put incentives in contracts? To try and insure better results. Unless of course the incentive is based on games played. Aaron might be the best QB ever. At least based on statistics. There is no need to tell him to hold the ball or don't hold the ball. He is 5 points better than the next closest qb. He knows what he is dong. Even if nerdmann doesn't agree with it. Sorry. Sucks to be you I guess.

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

#13

I guess you didn't like the QB rating in post #2 because it's a few years old. Here's one that is current:

Leaders 
Rank	Player	               Rate	        Years	
1	Aaron Rodgers	      103.8	        2005-2017	
2	Russell Wilson	      98.8	        2012-2017	
3	Tom Brady	          97.6	        2000-2017	
4	Tony Romo	          97.1	        2004-2016	
5	Steve Young+	      96.8	        1985-1999	
6	Drew Brees	          96.7	        2001-2017	
7	Peyton Manning	      96.5	        1998-2015	
8	Philip Rivers	      94.8	        2004-2017	
9	Ben Roethlisberger    94.0	        2004-2017	
10	Kirk Cousins	      93.7	        2012-2017	
10  Kurt Warner+	      93.7	        1998-2009

Originally Posted by: wpr

I go by SB rings.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

Cheesey
Preferred Member

6 years ago

#14

You can’t put an incentive like “hit the open guy” in a contract.
Or “holding onto the ball too long”.
Otherwise your QB will be thinking about that, so he doesn’t screw himself out of money, instead of trying to win a game.
As far as counting “super bowl rings”, other then Brady, no current QB has more then one more then Rodgers.
So I guess all of the other teams in the NFL have QBs that hold the ball too long or doesn’t hit the open guy.
I’m sure AR wants to win the super bowl. And he is doing whatever he can to win. But he HAS to get some help.
Even Tom Brady wouldn’t have all those rings if he didn’t have a strong defense and good offense to back him up.

gbguy20
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#15

Big Ben and Eli have 2 don't they?

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KRK
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#16

Holding the ball is not the problem...getting drilled after or while holding the ball is the problem.

The solution...an incentive for games played:
- x for each regular season game played
- 5x for every playoff game played
- 20x for every SuperBowl played

In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK

wpr
Preferred Member

6 years ago

#17

I go by SB rings.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

I guess Marino was a terrible QB. One of the worst to strap on a helmet.

wpr
Preferred Member

6 years ago

#18

You can’t put an incentive like “hit the open guy” in a contract.
Or “holding onto the ball too long”.
Otherwise your QB will be thinking about that, so he doesn’t screw himself out of money, instead of trying to win a game.
As far as counting “super bowl rings”, other then Brady, no current QB has more then one more then Rodgers.
So I guess all of the other teams in the NFL have QBs that hold the ball too long or doesn’t hit the open guy.
I’m sure Aaron Rodgers wants to win the super bowl. And he is doing whatever he can to win. But he HAS to get some help.
Even Tom Brady wouldn’t have all those rings if he didn’t have a strong defense and good offense to back him up.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

Back in the olden days of MLB single season contracts a pitcher whose name escapes me had a performance clause for the number of walks issued. Whenever the count got to 3 balls he intentionally hit the batter. Everyone knew why. No one complained.

Cheesey
Preferred Member

6 years ago

#19

Big Ben and Eli have 2 don't they?

Originally Posted by: gbguy20

That’s what I said. Reread my post. I said that no one other then Brady had more then ONE MORE then Rodgers.

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

6 years ago

#20

Even Tom Brady wouldn’t have all those rings if he didn’t have a strong defense and good offense to back him up.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

And he didn't play in the chronically weak AFC. 😁

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