Magic Mike: Pettine will need all his tricks to boost Packers' pass rush

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

What tricks do you think will help the Packers pass rush?

A healthy Clay Matthews and healthy Nick Perry I think is a good start.

If Mike Pettine can put more pressure on opposing quarterbacks with essentially the same collection of edge rushers from last year, then the Green Bay Packers' new defensive coordinator should earn a new nickname: Magic Mike.

For it might require smoke and mirrors given that he won't have much more to work with than what the fired Dom Capers had in that department last season.

In a draft so weak on outside pass rushers that there was only one consensus stud in the first round -- N.C. State's Bradley Chubb, who went No. 5 overall to the Broncos -- Packers general manager Brian Gutekunst didn't have one that he deemed worthy of taking with any of his first 10 picks. He bypassed the edge rusher position until his 11th and final selection -- No. 248 overall -- when he finally felt the value was right and took Kendall Donnerson, an outside linebacker from Southeast Missouri State.

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nerdmann
Premier Member

7 years ago

Pettine’s CBs will play press man at the LoS, jamming the WRs for 1-1.5 before they get into their routes.

Will be the difference between last year and this year. Matthews and Perry were the kings of “almost” sacks. You know how it LOOKs like Clay lost a half step? Give him that extra 1.5, he might suddenly appear rejuvenated.

That said, Biegel is the wild card. He could be Corey Bradford or he could be TJ Watt. I don’t discount Fackrell either. He was a solid depth guy. Plenty of times when he “almost” got there too. Maybe he takes another step in his third year. It’s not uncommon.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

beast
Select Member

7 years ago

What tricks do you think will help the Packers pass rush?

A healthy Clay Matthews and healthy Nick Perry I think is a good start.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Pettine's tricks are a lot of creative blitzes and coverage. Example he might surprise blitz Josh Jones off the edge and drop Matthews into coverage. Using a lot of DBs, which makes Josh Jones and LB Burks more interesting because they have small LB size, but basically have Safety coverage ability... so they can blitz, or if other DBs blitz, then can drop into coverage.

dyeah_gb
Member

7 years ago

Capers somehow managed to create a defensive plan that was both confusing for the players yet predictable to the other team offense. Fixing this issue will help a long way to improving the defense.

As a fan, it is much less painful to see when the secondary just gets outplayed versus when the secondary does not even know what end zone they are defending.

The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool - R. Feynman

DoddPower
Veteran Member

7 years ago

That said, Biegel is the wild card. He could be Corey Bradford or he could be TJ Watt. I don’t discount Fackrell either.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

LOL. Biegel will never be close to TJ Watt in any way, unless we're talking about sitting on the bench injured. I have no faith that Biegel or Facrell will ever become anything more than average rotational players. I won't be surprised if they end up less than that. They are not championship defense material. I imagine Gutey will replace those types of players in one more offseason. A lot of nice pass rushers in the 2019 draft.

wpr
Preferred Member

7 years ago

Pettine's tricks are a lot of creative blitzes and coverage. Example he might surprise blitz Josh Jones off the edge and drop Matthews into coverage. Using a lot of DBs, which makes Josh Jones and LB Burks more interesting because they have small LB size, but basically have Safety coverage ability... so they can blitz, or if other DBs blitz, then can drop into coverage.

Originally Posted by: beast

Please don't let CM3 cover any WE, TE, RB, FB, H Back or even an eligible OT. He will pop a hammy for sure.

wpr
Preferred Member

7 years ago

Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb

Communication please.
The part I hated the most was when 2 DBs looked at each other as if they were saying, "My guy? I thought YOU were supposed to cover him."

warhawk
Senior Member

7 years ago

I would like to see Pettine rush 4 DL at times along with a blitzer. Daniels, Clark, Wilkerson, Lowery, and Adams can all get after the QB. Put four of them in with their hand on the ground and
add in Jones, Burks, or maybe Alexander coming from who know where would be fun to watch I would think.
However way he does it I am sure Pettine is counting on getting pressure from those DL. Nothing messes with a QB more than pressure breaking down the pocket from the inside.

"The train is leaving the station."

nerdmann
Premier Member

7 years ago

Originally Posted by: warhawk

Hopefully Pettine can win the chess game, and won’t have to rely on just getting favorable match ups.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

DoddPower
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#10

I would like to see Pettine rush 4 DL at times along with a blitzer. Daniels, Clark, Wilkerson, Lowery, and Adams can all get after the QB. Put four of them in with their hand on the ground and
add in Jones, Burks, or maybe Alexander coming from who know where would be fun to watch I would think.
However way he does it I am sure Pettine is counting on getting pressure from those DL. Nothing messes with a QB more than pressure breaking down the pocket from the inside.

Originally Posted by: warhawk

How do we know Adams can do anything in the NFL? Certainly hasn't looked that way so far.

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