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nerdmann
Premier Member

6 years ago

A freakin plus. 👍

Get an elite CB, AND another first round pick, then add another top 5 CB in the second. I mean, damn.

I wanted to trade up for Equanimius in the 4th. 🤣

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

nerdmann
Premier Member

6 years ago

#22

The main thing I take away from this draft is my first impression of Goot. I was a little worried he was a shallow crowd please with that whole Jimmy Graham situation.

He seems to have acquitted himself very nicely in this draft.

I still think Murphy is gonna burn this franchise down, but maybe Goot can get us a Lombardi or two before we crash and burn.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

wpr
Preferred Member

6 years ago

#23

All post are indeed welcome, yet few have had the courage to post your grade on the Packers 2018 Draft Class. I graded it with a B+.

Again, how do you grade the Packers 2018 Draft ? [confused]

Originally Posted by: Smokey

It is not courage nor the lack there of. You can't give a real grade to a bunch of young men that have not even stepped on to a practice field little alone actually played in a game that counts.

I don't mind it if people give their opinion as to what they think the grade will eventually be three years from now because that is when we will have enough data to make an informed decision. Until then it's a beauty contest. They look good in their snappy suits and big smiles as they strut across the stage to handshakes and hugs.

Why not give an A+? Any time you can get a first round pick in the next draft for the paltry fee of 5th round pick you have accomplished something. Goot checked off many of the necessary boxes of need. You can't get everything out of a draft. It's ok he didn't get a TE. There were not many of any significant value. That's why he went the FA route.

For the most part the first 3 picks are the ones who will contribute the most over their careers. All 3 fill a need. All 3 look as if they will contribute in some manner in their first year. Hopefully Cole Madison will be able to contribute as an OG in the future.

I know you will think I am being critical of you. That is not my intent.

sschind
Senior Member

6 years ago

#24

Why would Cleveland not be at the top of the list? They had 4 picks in the top 35. Regardless of any other selections that should put them in the top 3.

Originally Posted by: wpr

I agree but I think most people can't get over the fact that they took Ward rather than Chubb so they knock them down for it. If the Jets would have taken Chubb and the Browns then took Ward I think people would have said great draft. Also its a little bit because I don't think anyone was really expecting them to take Mayfield so they can't say "see I was right about the pick"

wpr
Preferred Member

6 years ago

#25

Originally Posted by: sschind

But it says "Most improved teams" not "Who did the best job of selecting players based on the options available to them." The Brownies were so woefully bad last year they couldn't help but be the most improved. Or at least one of the top 3 improved teams. That doesn't mean they will make the playoffs. They can and just might end up 8-8. If they improve by 7 or 8 games wouldn't that more than likely be one of the three best?

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

6 years ago

#26

I don't know a damn thing about college players and didn't watch any non-Badgers football so I can't speak too well on a grade. However, I have read and listened to a lot of scouts and college "experts" who have spoken quite highly about several of the Packers draft picks. Naively, I feel confident in this draft in a way I haven't in a few drafts so I'm going to roll with an optimistic A+.

Cheesey
Preferred Member

6 years ago

#27

That’s me too, Zero. I only watch Badger games, so I don’t know anything about college kids. But all I hear from others is pretty good comments about our draft.
I’m excited about the coming season!

nerdmann
Premier Member

6 years ago

#28

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Based upon the knowledge currently at our disposal, this was a GREAT draft. Our GM did a GREAT job in the present moment, not only netting js a stable of good young players, but an extra first rounder next year. BOOM.

To me, it is a fallacy to judge a draft three hears later. Hindsight is 20/20. You never know what is goin to happen to a team or a plauer, particularly on a franchise like ours that can never keep guys healthy.

I don’t want a GM that can name great drafts in the past that have already happened. I want a guy who can get down in the trenches WIH THE KNOWLEDGE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE, and give me the best chance at winning, going forward.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

sschind
Senior Member

6 years ago

#29

Originally Posted by: wpr

I agree but they all thought they had Cleveland figured out and are upset that Dorsey made them look foolish by not taking who they though they should so even though the Browns really improved their team they won't admit it.

wpr
Preferred Member

6 years ago

#30

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

I seriously doubt most GM who worth their weight in spam could care less how prior drafts rate out. They better always be looking forward or they will be looking for a new gig. Therefore they only people who actually "rate" a draft are the people whose opinion doesn't really matter in the first place. IE: media types and the fan base.

In case you didn't realize it hindsight is how you actually evaluate a draft. We can pretend Cleveland is going to have 6 Hall of Famers come out of this draft but until we actually see the results it is just fantasy. Look at who many people were made at Uncle Teddy on April 23, 2005. They were trying to judge the draft without any facts on which to base it. How many people who didn't want Aaron in 2005 are glad he is on the Packers today?

You base your opinion on conjecture and I will wait and base mine on real facts. I am sure we will both be happy for it.

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