What If Tramon Williams Has to Start?

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

If Tramon is one of the best two CB's and earns starter, I'm good with that. If he has to start because no one else steps up from who we currently have, that's probably not a good sign. What do you think?

Tramon Williams is back with the Green Bay Packers, after three seasons away. Packers.com staff writer Wes Hodkiewicz recently wrote about Williams and comments from Packers head coach Mike McCarthy about the corner who was part of the team's last Super Bowl win.

McCarthy said Williams doesn't look like he's aged since leaving the Packers in early 2015. Williams credits that to his commitment to doing the right things to prolong his career and allow him to stay in football shape.

As it stands right now, Williams sits on a depth chart that includes Kevin King, Quinten Rollins and a group of undrafted free agents. Davon House remains out there for the taking, but he has not signed with the Packers so is not currently part of the conversation.

Based on that cornerback room, it's worth wondering if Williams is currently the starter on the outside opposite King. There is still time in free agency and the upcoming draft and the Packers will add more corners.

Continue Reading @ CheeseheadTV

CheeseheadTV wrote:

Wanna join the discussion?! Login to your PACKERSHOME forum account or Register a new forum account

gbguy20
Veteran Member

7 years ago

Agreed with your comment. Though Tramon played lights out last season.

BAD EMAIL because the address couldn ot be found, or is unable to receive mail.

Cheesey
Preferred Member

7 years ago

If we would have kept all our good DB’s in the first place, we wouldn’t have had such horrible defenses the last several years.
Then we go back and pick them up when they are “retreads?”
Makes me wonder when we will get Casey Hayward back.

DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

7 years ago

Preach.

Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance

Cheesey
Preferred Member

7 years ago

Darkanerules, you made me literally laugh!🤣

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

Hindsight makes everything easy to see. At the time, it made sense when you looked at the salary cap and the roster. As for Tramon Williams, the Packers wanted him back, thus they offered a two year contract worth $10 million, however, the Browns upped our offer by $4 million. Tramon got his ring already so he took the cash.

Cheesey
Preferred Member

7 years ago

I understand that, Zero. It’s just frustrating to develope theses guys, and then let them walk out the door.

What’s the sense of “draft and develope” if when the players start to play up to expectations, you let them walk instead of paying up to keep them?
Keeping lesser players won’t get you to the super bowl.
We have proof of that.

olds70supreme
Member

7 years ago

While I don't have any illusions he will be as good as I remember, or as good as he was last year, I would be ok w/ him starting. I don't see a way around it, actually, even if House is resigned. Who on our roster is going to be better? Even if we use our first pick on a CB, this team rarely starts rookies right out of the gate, so Williams is bound to start at least the first part of the season. Assuming the injury bug doesn't get him.

Also, a Williams/King combo has got to be as good or better than what we had starting for most of last season.

blank

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

The success players like Casey Hayward and Micah Hyde have had, (gosh that's a lot of H words) make me think it was more Dom Capers. We just kept stockpiling picks into the defense and they just weren't turning out.

The lack of success the WR's have had is why I believe having a good TE is more important than having a good WR corps because I believe Aaron Rodgers makes WR2's look like WR1's. Our offense and defense are very different.

nerdmann
Premier Member

7 years ago

#10

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

This staff couldn’t keep Hayward’s hamstrings intact. I mean, they can’t keep many of thhe plays’ hammies intact. Hayward goes away and instantly thrives, consistently over a number of years.

Wise move on his part, imo.

Keep Tramon on a pitch count. You don’t want him wearing down late in the season.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

Important Information:

The PACKERSHOME uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. More Details Close

Fan Shout

beast (3h) : If they aren't doing it, then why are you assuming they know how to do it?

dfosterf (9h) : Mackelvie

dfosterf (9h) : Michael Macelvie- NFL teams know how to draft- Why don"t they?

dfosterf (9h) : Youtube

Zero2Cool (14h) : Packers were not selected for the 2025 Hall of Fame game.

dfosterf (16h) : PFOW Out of our division would be a good thing imo

Zero2Cool (17h) : Jameson Williams is done at 24 years old? What? He's a WR, not QB. I'm missing something here haha

wpr (18h) : Tomorrow is almost here.

packerfanoutwest (18h) : would you want him if Pack needed a back up qb?

packerfanoutwest (18h) : JW is done......stick a fork in him

Zero2Cool (20h) : You should. He goes to AFC that helps Packers.

packerfanoutwest (23-Apr) : don't care

Zero2Cool (22-Apr) : Lions shopping Jameson Williams?

packerfanoutwest (22-Apr) : Packers General Manager Brian Gutekunst says Green Bay’s roster can win, even without adding anyone in the draft.

Zero2Cool (22-Apr) : It's a poor design. New site has SignalR like our gameday chat

wpr (22-Apr) : Ah today's Shout was very quick to post.

wpr (22-Apr) : now 3

Zero2Cool (22-Apr) : Who? What?

beast (22-Apr) : What is he supposed to say? He doesn't want players currently on the team?

Martha Careful (21-Apr) : meh

Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : Sounds like Walker and Wyatt will be with Packers for beyond 2026

Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : It's so awesome.

Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : new site fan shout post fast

wpr (21-Apr) : Slow posting in Fan shout.

wpr (21-Apr) : Only 4

Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : If only we had a topic to read about and discuss it. That's something new website must have!!!

dfosterf (21-Apr) : Justice Musqueda over at Acme Packing put up an excellent synopsis of the Packers 1st round options this am

wpr (19-Apr) : 5 days

beast (18-Apr) : 6 days

wpr (17-Apr) : 7 days

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : sounds like Packers don't get good compensation, Jaire staying

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Nobody coming up with a keep, but at x amount

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Trade, cut or keep

dfosterf (16-Apr) : that from Jaire

dfosterf (16-Apr) : My guess is the Packers floated the concept of a reworked contract via his agent and agent got a f'

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Yes, and that is why I think Rob worded it how he did. Rather than say "agent"

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Same laws apply. Agent must present such an offer to Jaire. Cannot accept or reject without presenting it

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : I'm thinking that is why Rob worded it how he did.

dfosterf (16-Apr) : The Packers can certainly still make the offer to the agent

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Laws of agency and definition of fiduciary responsibility

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Jaire is open to a reduced contract without Jaire's permission

dfosterf (16-Apr) : The agent would arguably violate the law if he were to tell the Packers

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : That someone ... likely the agent.

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : So, Jaire has not been offered nor rejected a pay reduction, but someone says he'd decline.

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovksy says t was direct communication with someone familiar with Jaire’s line of thinking at that moment.

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovsky just replied to me a bit ago. Jaire hasn't said it.

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Of course, that depends on the definition of "we"

dfosterf (16-Apr) : We have been told that they haven't because he wouldn't accept it. I submit we don't know that

dfosterf (16-Apr) : What is the downside in making a calculated reduced offer to Jaire?

Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2024 Packers Schedule

Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM

Eagles

29 - 34

Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM

COLTS

16 - 10

Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM

Titans

30 - 14

Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM

VIKINGS

29 - 31

Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM

Rams

24 - 19

Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM

CARDINALS

34 - 13

Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM

TEXANS

24 - 22

Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM

Jaguars

30 - 27

Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM

LIONS

14 - 24

Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM

Bears

20 - 19

Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM

49ERS

38 - 10

Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM

DOLPHINS

30 - 17

Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM

Lions

31 - 34

Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM

Seahawks

30 - 13

Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM

SAINTS

34 - 0

Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM

Vikings

25 - 27

Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM

BEARS

22 - 24