I think you make a great point, but I'm still confused as to what counts as a drop and what doesn't... as my personal counting always seems to be higher than the "official" version... and I've seen where balls have bounced off WRs hands and some how not seem to have counted as a drop.

Also the Seahawks had one of the worst OLs, I wonder if that might of caused some more quick throwing and quick dropped passes... plus I remember a video clip (either ESPN or NFL Network) suggesting that Seahawks had been forcing Graham to try back corner passes for TDs and he was struggling with those and got some drops, and finally talked the Seahawks into simply letting him go into the endzone and post the defender up and box him out (like a basketball player, which Graham used to be) and that's what lead to more TDs. But, I think, Graham had a couple of drops in the redzone, only to catch a touchdown on the very next play.

Originally Posted by: beast 

Do you actually believe a player can be graded based on 10 [good] plays? Let’s try to evaluate Graham with a little more depth of thought and football acumen:

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 

Sorry, I am not biting. Touchdowns put points on the board, and points are what dictate wins. If he gets us 10 TD's, I don't give two shits about your ratings you link to. I want POINTS!!!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Sorry, I am not biting. Touchdowns put points on the board, and points are what dictate wins. If he gets us 10 TD's, I don't give two shits about your ratings you link to. I want POINTS!!!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

So ... TDs count ya? ... lets look at Jordys numbers ... 2016 14TD bit better then the ole JG. oh and jordy lost a step in 2017 ... 1st 5 games with rodgers (for some reason jordy didnt play one of them but the 4 games he was in he scored 6 TDs.) -

I see that he didnt score any with the gum chewing qb playing he favored adams as his go to man. But we all know that hundley will probably be out (at least we hope that he doesnt continue to be our starter ...) - and rodgers back in with kizer as our new backup.

I realize nelson is getting older but with those stats as mentioned above - I dont see how you cannot keep him. How a guy runs vs another doesnt show when it comes to the chemistry he and rodgers had. But the numbers do. And the numbers say - thats going to be hard to replace.

if we look at the stats vs nelson and JG - both players numbers declined last year compared to the previous. Although JG had more TDs but then again thats the way he is used - he doesnt have to go get yardage as much. And we already know we arnt looking at hundleys stats for what we have in a QB ... (least I hope not).

hard to judge but nelson was one of the best pass blocking WR out there; let alone he knew what rodgers was going to do before rodgers was going to do it ... false start, blitz etc ...

I dont care how much they are paying JG - I dont see how he is going to replace JN

Originally Posted by: Dulak 

Hey cmon now he filled a need position, but made more of a weak position already. So now we line cobb and Adams up outside and graham in the slot. And Rodgers has 2 sends to pass the ball because the line can't block lol.I would have loved to see us sign Barton from Philly over Graham anyday. But we have the God at qb that just so happens to be hurt in some way every year now and demands he has a say in every decision. I remember an old QB that tried doing that and everyone hated him for it and said it wasn't right. But its different with Rodgers because he won a Super Bowl.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 

Also, keep in mind once Rodgers went down, Nelson DISAPPEARED! Davante Adams still lit it up, Randall Cobb even had a few good games. Nelson just completely fell off the chart.

As for TE Jimmy Graham, he is a receiving tight end, period.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Are new GM is a moron!

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 

Are new GM is a moron!

Originally Posted by: Barfarn