dfosterf
15 years ago

I think the Lions would be foolish to not pack their 1st overall pick to the Bronco's for Cutler and a 2nd day pick of some flavor. They need a decent QB who can get the ball to Calvin Johnson.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



At the same time, Denver would be foolish to trade Cutler for that 1st overall pick, regardless of what part of the "package" it's in. Thanks to the absolutely ridiculous salary structure for these unproven players, that pick is much more of a curse than an opportunity. I would bet that no team really wants that 1st pick this year.

A 30 million + guarantee for Stafford? He might be worth it, but I don't see it. I don't even come close to seeing it. You can insert your favorite rookie here, the math still sucks, imo.

Over at the National Football Post, one of the contributors argues that the new NFLPA executive director needs to preserve this rookie salary structure. If the NFLPA listens to his advice and stands fast on this issue, I cannot see how there would ever be labor peace. Wrong is wrong... I don't have to own an NFL team to know that much.

Something is f#cked up when the 1st overall pick is a negative instead of a positive.
ILikeThePackers39
15 years ago
If Denver can't get a viable starter - not a pick that would turn into someone they hope could be a starter, but a real, viable starter - in the QB position somehow, trading Cutler is going to kill them.

So, who's got a spare starting QB? The closest I can think of is Cleveland. The argument could be made (and also easily countered) that either Anderson or Quinn might do okay w/ the new coach/schemes/etc. I don't think either is as good as Cutler, but at least if you're Denver you can say "We've got a starting QB - it'll be okay." Detroit can't offer anything like that, and neither can the Vikings or Bears. I don't see him ending up in the Norris, personally.

I think they're a bit screwed at the moment, really. Their top WR is probably going to get himself another suspension, their defense is in serious rebuilding mode, and now they've managed to alienate their best player and the best hope they've got for rebuilding in fairly short order.
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago
If the Browns are in the mix for trading, it would need to be a three way trade I think.

Cutler to Team A
Team A sends package to Browns
Browns send one of their QB's to Bronco's
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packerfanoutwest (1m) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed
Zero2Cool (2h) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them
Zero2Cool (2h) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (2h) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (2h) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (2h) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (2h) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (2h) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (2h) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (3h) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (4h) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (4h) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (4h) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (4h) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (4h) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (4h) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (5h) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (5h) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
Zero2Cool (6h) : I see what you did there Mucky
Zero2Cool (6h) : dammit. 3:25pm
Zero2Cool (6h) : Packers Vikings flexed to 3:35pm
Mucky Tundra (6h) : Upon receiving the news about Luke Musgrave, I immediately fell to the ground
Mucky Tundra (6h) : Yeah baby!
Zero2Cool (6h) : LUKE MUSGRAVE PLAYING TONIGHT~!~~~~WOWHOAAOHAOAA yah
Zero2Cool (7h) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (7h) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (8h) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (8h) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (8h) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (8h) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
Zero2Cool (8h) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (8h) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (8h) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
Zero2Cool (9h) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
beast (9h) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games
beast (9h) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality
beast (9h) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs
Zero2Cool (9h) : I posted it in that Packers and 1 seed thread
Zero2Cool (9h) : I literally just said it.
packerfanoutwest (9h) : show us a scenario where Pack don't get in? bet you can't
Zero2Cool (9h) : Falcons, Buccaneers would need to win final two games.
Zero2Cool (9h) : Yes, if they win one of three, they are lock. If they lose out, they can be eliminated.
packerfanoutwest (9h) : as I just said,,gtheyh are in no matter what
Zero2Cool (9h) : Packers should get in. I just hope it's not 7th seed. Feels dirty.
packerfanoutwest (9h) : If packers lose out, no matter what, they are in
packerfanoutwest (9h) : both teams can not male the playoffs....falcon hold the tie breaker
packerfanoutwest (9h) : if bucs win out they win their division
beast (9h) : Fine, Buccaneers and Falcons can get ahead of us
packerfanoutwest (9h) : falcons are already ahead of us
beast (9h) : Packers will get in
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