Zero2Cool
7 years ago
What do you think about this trade idea?

Green Bay Packers wide receiver Randall Cobb could have some trade value. When the Green Bay Packers drafted Ty Montgomery in 2015 he was considered the heir apparent in the slot for Randall Cobb. Then the injury-plagued backfield necessitated him to switch positions. Now, moving on from Cobb is not as pressing as what the internet in general

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Smokey
7 years ago
Cobb indeed is very tradable, however GB needs most to improve at the CB position and not the WR position. Perhaps a trade for a TE like Jimmy Graham.

In GB Rodgers makes WR's look good, he does not need Jared Cook or other WRs from the FA. A 4th or 5th round draft pick will serve as well or even better.

GB's #1 need this offseason is a MONSTER EDGE RUSHER. Draft him, trade for him, find him in CENTRAL AFRICA or GERMANY or harvest one from a Corn Field, but GET AN EDGE RUSHER IN GB,
NOW ! [nohair]

Cheesey
7 years ago
Cook is the TE we let walk 2 seasons ago.
I don't know if he would want to come back here, or if he would be welcomed back by the players.

Rockmolder
7 years ago
I don't quite get the fascination with Cook. He's been an underachiever his entire career. The guy has a skill set that could've made him a Pro Bowler, but he just dissapears for games on end. He's done that at every team in his career.

He's also not that interested in winning, apparently. After pulling that franchise tag BS with the Titans, he joined the Rams, who had no talent at all (at QB) and just came off 2-14 and 7-9 seasons. Then he left us, thinking he'd get better money elsewhere .

Lastly, he'll be 31 by the time next season starts.

There are some guys out there in free agency. If you want to go young and promising, sign Trey Burton. If you want to roll the dice on a guy with an injury history, but great play, sign Tyler Eifert. If you really, really want a physical specimen who's best years are behind him, sign Jimmy Graham.

I'm more interested in the LaDarius Gunter part of the article. Firstly, I'd send that pick to Carolina, rather than New Orleans. Secondly, I don't know if we'll even have to give up anything. Gunter doesn't have a contract right now and I can't imagine him getting more than the lowest tender.
Porforis
7 years ago
Gunter, plz.
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7 years ago
Cobb is all but untradeable. His contract is too high for the value he produces. If you don;t want him don't expect other teams to be falling all over themselves to land him. He has had 1 and only 1 season over 1000 yards. Way way back in 14. That's ancient history.

Add to this that teams almost never trade players for players. They trade for draft picks. Trading Cobb might get you a 5th but nothing higher than that.
sschind
7 years ago

Cobb indeed is very tradable, however GB needs most to improve at the CB position and not the WR position. Perhaps a trade for a TE like Jimmy Graham.

In GB Rodgers makes WR's look good, he does not need Jared Cook or other WRs from the FA. A 4th or 5th round draft pick will serve as well or even better.

GB's #1 need this offseason is a MONSTER EDGE RUSHER. Draft him, trade for him, find him in CENTRAL AFRICA or GERMANY or harvest one from a Corn Field, but GET AN EDGE RUSHER IN GB,
NOW ! [nohair]

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



yeah, because we have gotten fantastic production out of our 4th and 5 th round WR draft picks before. In case you didn't pick up on it that was sarcasm. Our WR picks beyond the third round have been absolutely dismal since Ted took over. Rodgers hasn't made any of them look very good. The only one that has contributed more than a blip is Janis and that is only on special teams.

As for Cobb being very tradeable...not at his salary. Get him to agree to an extension to bring his cap hit down to around 7-8 million then maybe but if that happens I'd rather keep him.

I do agree with your sentiments on the edge rusher though. It is a higher priority than WR

Smokey
7 years ago

yeah, because we have gotten fantastic production out of our 4th and 5 th round WR draft picks before. In case you didn't pick up on it that was sarcasm. Our WR picks beyond the third round have been absolutely dismal since Ted took over. Rodgers hasn't made any of them look very good. The only one that has contributed more than a blip is Janis and that is only on special teams.

As for Cobb being very tradeable...not at his salary. Get him to agree to an extension to bring his cap hit down to around 7-8 million then maybe but if that happens I'd rather keep him.

I do agree with your sentiments on the edge rusher though. It is a higher priority than WR

Originally Posted by: sschind 



Sarcasm aside, with a new GM it is unknown just what his 1st year at the will yield in Free Agency or the NFL Draft yet. He may be, I hope, a lot better than Ted Thompson was. His 4th and 5th round draft picks could be super.

Cobb + a 5th round draft pick could yield the Packers a better CB or TE. Being creative and making deals is a large part of the GM's job.

Finally, IMO, GB needs to use it's 1st Draft Pick to get an Edge Rusher. The Free Agent market does not look so good for those players. Also, as I expect GB to be back on top next season, taking advantage of the 14th overall draft pick this year is most important for the Packers long term success.


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sschind
7 years ago

Sarcasm aside, with a new GM it is unknown just what his 1st year at the will yield in Free Agency or the NFL Draft yet. He may be, I hope, a lot better than Ted Thompson was. His 4th and 5th round draft picks could be super.

Cobb + a 5th round draft pick could yield the Packers a better CB or TE. Being creative and making deals is a large part of the GM's job.

Finally, IMO, GB needs to use it's 1st Draft Pick to get an Edge Rusher. The Free Agent market does not look so good for those players. Also, as I expect GB to be back on top next season, taking advantage of the 14th overall draft pick this year is most important for the Packers long term success.


[cheers]

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



Disregard who makes the picks and look at the rest of the league. How many 4th and 5th rounders stepped in and were of immediate help. A few sure but the odds are not in your favor. They may develop but if you are looking for help this year it's very risky to rely on a 4th or 5th rounder to do that.

I just don't think many teams would take on Cobb at his current rate when they could get that same talent in the 4th or 5th round themselves. Granted most don't have an Aaron Rodgers throwing the ball but if Cobb isn't worth his cap hit with AR throwing him the ball he certainly won't be worth it with a lesser QB throwing doing it.

As far as the edge rusher in the first goes I agree for the most part that it is very important but I'd hate to have a GM locked in on a position to the point he passes on a better player just to get an edge rusher. Trade up if you need to to get the play maker or even back a bit to get the value but don't just sit at 14 and take the best edge rusher just because you need the position. I know that's not what you said and I'm sure you would be fine with a trade to get the position but if you have no takers on a trade and you are stuck at 14 you have to consider the entire roster. If you pass on a better WR or CB or OL just because you are determined to draft an edge rusher you risk not improving 2 positions.

Oh, and sorry about the sarcasm on the last post. I just get a frustrated hearing people say that because we have Aaron Rodgers it doesn't matter who we have catching the ball because AR will make them all good. We all want the same thing in the end we just have different ideas on how to get there. Well except the fire Capers thing, everybody had that same idea.
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Mucky Tundra (20h) : I could feel my body decomposing in real time when I read that
Mucky Tundra (20h) : @MIKEYSAINRISTIL Tyler Shough will officially be the last person drafted to the NFL born in the 1900’s
Mucky Tundra (26-Apr) : saw the tweet, he meant the city
Mucky Tundra (26-Apr) : Was that for the team or the city?
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Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : ✅ ...
buckeyepackfan (26-Apr) : Check
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : Matthew Golden cahanged 81 to 22??
TheKanataThrilla (26-Apr) : Sam Howell to Vikings...guess no Aaron
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : 1 round 7 min, with one extra minute if there is a trade. 2nd round 4 minutes, 3rd -3, 2 thereafter IMO
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Agree
dfosterf (26-Apr) : Great idea imo
dfosterf (26-Apr) : 1st round to 7 minutes with one extension
dfosterf (26-Apr) : NFL comissioner wants to shorten the 2st
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Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : Yes. Look at the losses last year. They can win.
beast (26-Apr) : Can Packers win with their current DL?
bboystyle (26-Apr) : waiting for a pass rusher.
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 5 minutes between picks in the 3rd
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 3rd. Hate this phone
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 4rd
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 5 minutes in the 4
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 7 minutes between picks in the 2nd round
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Zero2Cool (25-Apr) : Losing 2nd round pick for a one year rental, not ideal. Especially a headcase.
TheKanataThrilla (25-Apr) : Pickens for Jaire may be interesting. Definitely not sure we want Pickens long term.
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